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Topic: Scheduling 18 teams

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utee94

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Re: Scheduling 18 teams
« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2023, 10:22:47 AM »
Running this exercise right now is fruitless.

The BIG will be at 24 schools in short order.
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Re: Scheduling 18 teams
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2023, 10:27:58 AM »
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Agree, but so will the SEC. 

Another possibility is the football model in Europe.

You have 24 schools - 12 in the upper division and 12 in the lower division.

Maybe 2-3 schools per year change divisions based on a 4-5 year performance metric. Could be interesting.
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Re: Scheduling 18 teams
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2023, 10:34:38 AM »
Agree, but so will the SEC.

Another possibility is the football model in Europe.

You have 24 schools - 12 in the upper division and 12 in the lower division.

Maybe 2-3 schools per year change divisions based on a 4-5 year performance metric. Could be interesting.
Oh great, here we go with the relegation talk again.

Come on man, surely you understand the difference between professional sporting organizations in Europe that are solely focused on one single sport, and collegiate sporting organizations in the USA that support between 10 and 30 sports?

ADs can't tolerate the kind of inconsistency in revenue streams involved in relegation/promotion.  They need to understand what their income is going to be looking 10-20 years into the future.  Look no further than the current dire situation of the PAC leftovers for an example of the devastation that's going to occur when your revenue gets cut by half or more.

The only way relegation/promotion would work in college athletics, is if those 12 lower division schools in your example are paid exactly the same as the 12 upper division schools.  So the only difference is in level of competition, but not in compensation.

Otherwise there's zero chance a university AD or president is going to vote for it, knowing that his own school could potentially be relegated and lose all that money.  No way that happens.

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Re: Scheduling 18 teams
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2023, 11:10:24 AM »
And don't get me wrong, I really love regulation in world soccer.  It's a really cool system.

There's just no analog between a pro soccer franchise in England, and a collegiate athletics department in the USA.  It just doesn't work that way.


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Re: Scheduling 18 teams
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2023, 11:30:30 AM »
It could work if Chip Kelly and I get our way.
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« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2023, 11:36:03 AM »
It could work if Chip Kelly and I get our way.
Only if every school is paid exactly the same, regardless of relegation/promotion status.

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Re: Scheduling 18 teams
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2023, 11:52:41 AM »
deal killer for helmets in the SEC and B1G
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« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2023, 11:57:22 AM »
deal killer for helmets in the SEC and B1G
Deal killer for the TV partners as well.  Say that one of the bluebloods struggles enough one season that they get relegated (I'm looking at you, Texas).

So now instead of getting Texas vs. OU and Texas vs. Georgia and Texas vs. Florida, you're only getting Texas vs. Vanderbilt and Texas vs. Miss State and Texas vs. Kentucky.

What do you think that does to the value of the TV contract?  Are the TV partners going to be willing to pay the same amount for those matchups, as they would for the marquee ones?  Nope.

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Re: Scheduling 18 teams
« Reply #64 on: August 10, 2023, 02:10:29 PM »
A recent report states that the Big Ten Conference will be expanding the number of league games per season. Our colleagues at Spartans Wire have reported that the Big Ten will “most likely be moving to (ten) 10 conference games with the additions of the Ducks and Huskies.”

It’s also unknown when this change would occur if it does indeed happen.
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« Reply #65 on: August 10, 2023, 02:21:23 PM »
A recent report states that the Big Ten Conference will be expanding the number of league games per season. Our colleagues at Spartans Wire have reported that the Big Ten will “most likely be moving to (ten) 10 conference games with the additions of the Ducks and Huskies.”

It’s also unknown when this change would occur if it does indeed happen.

In related news, the SEC has decided to drop to 5 conference games per year, and a mandatory 7 FCS games, for each team.

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Re: Scheduling 18 teams
« Reply #66 on: August 10, 2023, 02:34:26 PM »
A recent report states that the Big Ten Conference will be expanding the number of league games per season. Our colleagues at Spartans Wire have reported that the Big Ten will “most likely be moving to (ten) 10 conference games with the additions of the Ducks and Huskies.”

It’s also unknown when this change would occur if it does indeed happen.

If true  I would guess 2026 at the earliest for 10 conference games.  

SO FOR 2024-2025 with just 9 games, they can set it up so that everybody has 3 teams they play twice, 12 teams they play once and 2 teams they skip.

Then in 2026-2029 go to the 3 + 7/7 rotation for 4 years. 

Of course I am assuming the Big Ten has already negotiated this all with the TV networks to get extra money for all these extra games. 

 

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