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Topic: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2022, 11:15:32 PM »
Who came up with those?  A guy who lost his job and had to transfer to a crap program is 5th in all of college football?  

That's broken.
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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2022, 11:26:17 PM »
I look at this whole thing differently.
Saban mastered a certain situation, and just like any powerful entity, wants the status quo to remain.
NIL turned things on it's head.
But Saban used very specific wording:  "I don't know if we'll be able to sustain that in the future..." This is in regards to his program's not doing what he's saying A&M's program did.  That means he still got the 2nd-best class in the country without stooping to whatever tactics he's accusing A&M of doing.  So imagine next year when Alabama starts cranking it up and doing what the Aggies are doing.  
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I'm afraid that A&M did something akin to wearing headgear in a boxing match and Alabama knocked everyone else out while not wearing headgear.  Saban is shrugging here and saying, "okay, I guess we'll wear headgear, too" and they're going to dominate even more than they previously have.  

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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2022, 06:31:56 AM »
"I don't know if we'll be able to sustain that in the future..."



This is code for "OK boosters. Time to step it up."
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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2022, 08:35:57 AM »
after working to level the playing field since the 70's

it's no longer level

helmets = boosters = money
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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2022, 08:40:11 AM »
The game is changing and it's not for the better. May as well dump scholarship limits too. 

It's over.
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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2022, 08:44:16 AM »
yup, players can pay their own way with mountains of cash

so, the stars of the team, the QB, a RB a couple WRs, 10-20 starters are all off scholarship because they're getting paid

this opens up ships for 15 other younger players that might have walked on
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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2022, 08:44:36 AM »
The old 25-man scholarship limit rule per football recruiting cycle has been tossed to the curb for at least the next two years by the Division I Council, and Husker assistant coach Bill Busch is like many in the profession who sees that as beneficial.

"The one thing they finally started to figure out a little bit is where you end the ridiculous 25 initials (scholarships)," Busch was saying this week during an interview with Husker247 about an array of recruiting topics and stories. "You have 85 and that's your number. If you have to sign 40, you can sign 40, but you're still at 85. That's even for everybody. That's an even playground. That's why a lot of schools would get upside down and they could never get back to their 85 and it was like they were always on probation. Because they would be 34 under and they only had 25 to sign, so now it's like you're under probation."

Chris Hummer of 247Sports did a deep dive on this topic this week laying out the main impact points of this rule change, which previously kept your limit to 25 scholarship players you could bring in each cycle. Hummer offered up Kansas as one of the most extreme examples of a program that was absolutely buried by the 25-class limit, with KU down to 39 scholarship players in 2014 and still having never reached 85 from that point to this day under Lance Leipold.
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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2022, 10:37:54 AM »
"I don't know if we'll be able to sustain that in the future..."



This is code for "OK boosters. Time to step it up."
"Time to step up differently."

I'm deeply amused by sports writers who are like "Well Saban didn't NEED to pay players because of the NFL angle," as if Alabama boosters were constrained by such things. 

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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2022, 10:39:40 AM »
crazy thing is that Saban seems to NOT have expected this to happen

dumbass
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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2022, 11:27:45 AM »
Saban committed a cardinal sin; he told the truth. Everybody from Lane Kiffin to Steve Spurrier to Ivan Masiel to Kirby Smart know it and have spoken or written about it. Does anybody here believe Saban was wrong? I guess it is common practice for a team that hasn't won a NC since 1939 and had an 8-4 record to have the best recruiting class in history.

Also of note is Saban did not accuse anybody of cheating although I believe the toothless NCAA prohibits NIL contracts as recruiting tactics. He accuse A&M of buying their recruiting class which they did.

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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2022, 11:38:53 AM »
no one thinks Saban is wrong

just don't like to hear him whine about another program beating him at recruiting while not cheating

if he has a problem with NIL rules or lack thereof, he should take it up with the NCAA, not Jimbo
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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2022, 12:11:14 PM »
To start with the NCAA is totally inept and soon will be replaced. To go to them is futile. To affect needed change somebody has to lead. Saban should be applauded for doing something that needed to be done

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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2022, 12:18:01 PM »
:::golf clap:::

shocked if this goes anywhere

I've been hearing about the NCAA's demise for decades
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Re: Saban blasts Jimbo/A&M...says they bought every single player
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2022, 01:23:44 PM »
The game is changing and it's not for the better. May as well dump scholarship limits too.

It's over.
Well... they kinda just did. 

Top limit is still 85, but if a team loses, say, 50 scholarship players to graduation, transfer, early NFL, they can now go out and replace them with 50 the next cycle instead of waiting for the scholarship to expire.  

We thought they'd zig with this mess involving the portal and NIL, but I'll be damned if they didn't just zag, doubling down, and centering power on the stakeholders damn near exclusively.  

 

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