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Topic: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
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MrNubbz · « **Reply #126 on:** January 03, 2022, 12:09:59 PM »

Quote from: TyphonInc on January 03, 2022, 10:35:05 AM

So, WOW! What a Game. What a Game.

For the record: My complaint with Stroud has been how much worse he becomes when under duress. (I'm making up numbers here, but other "good" QB's pass 75% with a clean pocket, and 55% under duress; while Stroud passes 90% with a clean pocket and only 12% under duress.) The formula to beat OSU was easy; run block, and fluster Stroud. Then OSU offense became inert, TTUN did that to a "T". Stroud did much better on Saturday when under duress. Jaxon Smith-Njigba was super-human, we knew he was great, but we didn't know how he would perform as "the man". Hartline has done an amazing with the wide receiver group.

Go Bucks, and hope you all enjoy the off season.

Great Post and I agree,moving forward hope Stroud grows with the snaps and steadies himself in tight spots.Hartline has positioned himself for a huge raise either in C-Bus or with a head set on some other sideline.Hopefully we get at least one/two more recruiting cycles out of him.And also best wishes in the New Year!!!

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #127 on:** January 03, 2022, 12:24:09 PM »

Quote from: TyphonInc on January 03, 2022, 10:35:05 AM

So, WOW! What a Game. What a Game.

Congrats to Utah and their faithful, they came out guns a blazing, scoring at will, flying around on defense, and I was thinking; "oh great TTUN part 2." They definitely deserved to be at the Rose Bowl and totally played like it was the most important game. Way to go Utah.

I was part of the camp that thought Stroud's numbers was inflated due to the dynamic receivers at his disposal. I was very worried about having Olave and Wilson sit out. And I did not expect record breaking days out of JSN and Stroud.

For the record: My complaint with Stroud has been how much worse he becomes when under duress. (I'm making up numbers here, but other "good" QB's pass 75% with a clean pocket, and 55% under duress; while Stroud passes 90% with a clean pocket and only 12% under duress.) The formula to beat OSU was easy; run block, and fluster Stroud. Then OSU offense became inert, TTUN did that to a "T". Stroud did much better on Saturday when under duress. Jaxon Smith-Njigba was super-human, we knew he was great, but we didn't know how he would perform as "the man". Hartline has done an amazing with the wide receiver group.

Can I complain about the Refs for a bit? I guess I don't know what holding is any more, but both D Lines, every play the Linemen were pulling their Jersey's back on because they were being held! But nothing was being called! For Utah's punt return OSU's 13 got blown up from behind. why wasn't that called back? And what was up with the phantom pass interference to extend Utah's last drive?!?! (Not the correct pass interference in the end zone the earlier one.) Also in the first half there was a call not made against Utah where the DB initiated contact and held OSU receiver. But on the very next possession, and even less egregious foul was called against OSU, where the Utah receiver initiated contact, held OSU's DB, and the DB didn't hold back, but a foul was still called against him. We also had a PI not called where the DB rode the wide receiver's jersey for 15 yards, slowing him up and everyone yelling for the PI but the refs was like "what???"

Injuries: It was good to see Utah's QB up and walking around after the game, I hope it was just concussion protocol that kept him out. So, wow Ransom's injury was nasty. I'm reading it's a fracture, and he should be able to fully recover, but will prolly miss spring ball.

Overall, I guess it's better to win this game than lose it, but the Buckeye Defense looked confused most of the 1st half, not sure what changed in the locker room, but they totally came out the 2nd half and played better. (I also think Utah got more conservative with a 2 score lead.) I was also impressed with Harrison Jr. Did Fleming really dislocated his shoulder and come back in?

Go Bucks, and hope you all enjoy the off season.

Extremely entertaining game. Two good teams going at it.

if you notice the defense was primarily set up to stop the run in the first half and to a very high degree they did. But Utah anticipated that And was beating Ohio State with the underneath passing in front of the linebackers. You also have to remember how many guys playing defense were getting their first real experience or had very little experience. I mean come on, they started a linebacker who have spent the last two seasons as a tight end. Any playing just about the whole game.

As far as the officiating, I thought it was actually decent for an SEC crew. I thought the pass interference calls were legitimate. The one that bothered me was the phantom holding that they did call Egbuka had that 75 yard kick return called back.

The ejection of Jack Sawyer was tough pill to swallow because even though it was correct call it might be the first time I’ve ever seen somebody chasing somebody from behind get called for targeting.

this Ohio State team was so young this year and is returning so many great players. I think they have some potential for sure.

FearlessF · « **Reply #128 on:** January 03, 2022, 12:42:56 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on January 03, 2022, 12:24:09 PM

As far as the officiating, I thought it was actually decent for an SEC crew. I thought the pass interference calls were legitimate. The one that bothered me was the phantom holding that they did call Egbuka had that 75 yard kick return called back.

Refs got the wrong number of the player holding, but there was a blatant hold and the correct call.

TyphonInc · « **Reply #129 on:** January 03, 2022, 01:23:19 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on January 03, 2022, 12:42:56 PM

Refs got the wrong number of the player holding, but there was a blatant hold and the correct call.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2022-rose-bowl-game/2022/01/128399/freshman-tracker-rose-bowl
#13 had a jersey pulling hold, that without the hold may have impacted the return.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #130 on:** January 03, 2022, 03:24:08 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on January 03, 2022, 12:42:56 PM

Refs got the wrong number of the player holding, but there was a blatant hold and the correct call.

Yes- that’s what the announcers were speculating.

Turned out not to matter- Ohio State drove down and scored anyway.

like I said- I thought the refs were decent.

The two pass interference calls we’re both legit on Utah’s final touchdown drive. The first one was just a great route by that awesome receiver they have named Covey. The second one was Hickman, who is a great tackler and sort of a hybrid safety linebacker, being tasked with covering one of Utah’s numerous excellent tight ends. Tough ask.

for those of you who didn’t notice, Ohio State was playing three linebackers for most of that game which was clearly designed to play better against the run. The trade-off is it weakens you and pass coverage.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #131 on:** January 03, 2022, 03:35:08 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on January 03, 2022, 12:24:09 PM

The ejection of Jack Sawyer was tough pill to swallow because even though it was correct call it might be the first time I’ve ever seen somebody chasing somebody from behind get called for targeting.

I noticed the same thing. At first I thought it was a bad call because I didn't think it was possible to commit a targeting infraction when overtaking someone from behind but when they showed the replay I saw what they meant. Strange call but looked correct by the letter of the rule.