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I struggle with the whole postseason ban / roster size restrictions / etc as it relates to punishment:

• On the one hand, I recognize that the current roster shouldn't be punished for things that occurred 2-4 years ago--especially in the modern transfer portal era where it might not even be likely that those players were underclassmen when they were going on. They weren't even there. 
• On the other hand, things like vacating wins or financial fines are useless as a deterrent. Everyone knows Michigan won the 2023 NC. Everyone knows they won the other games they won. And they're rich enough that financial fines are more than worth it if they've actually got the on-field results to justify it. 

Ultimately, I lean towards the idea that you have to punish the program HARD and if that impacts the current players? So be it. The transfer portal cuts both ways, and in this case it means that if you hand down a draconian punishment, those players CAN go elsewhere, quite easily. 

They cheated for 3 years. So give them a 3 year postseason ban. Will their players leave? Yes. Will it set their program back probably closer to 5 years? Yes. But it takes something like that to be a deterrent from other programs trying to do the same thing. 


But the NCAA didn't do that. 

I'll tell you one thing... I'd HATE to be CMU right now 

I actually think a postseason ban is MORE effective now than it's been in a decade, simply because every helmet team expects to make the CFP.  Not going to the Citrus Bowl?  Nobody cares anymore.  No shot at the CFP?  That could matter

agree 100%. post-season ban is probably the most significant punishment NCAA can dish out these days. bowl games are meaningless now- and the elite top flight blue chip prospects want to play in the playoff and to win a Natty- and well if a school gets a 2-3-4 year post season ban those kids aren't going to come to your school anymore- your top players will hit the portal- and you won't have any luck getting top kids in the portal. so basically your program = fucked. 

scholarship reductions and official visit reductions hurt- but with NIL cash rich programs can backdoor it and that can be offset a bit. if Cincinnati or USF is ever caught cheating they will get post season bans. for sure probably.

Little bit of a problem here though. NBC, Fox, CBS, and Disney aren't paying SEC & B1G tens and tens of billions of dollars for any marquee helmet program in either league to get popped and for ratings to go down.

Disney and Warner Bros Discovery aren't paying $8 BILLION for the rights to the college football playoff through 2031 for helmet big draw big revenue marquee blue chip brands that bring massive tv audiences to be banned from being on their tv networks. Anyone who thought for even a second they would allow NCAA to fuck with their bottom line is kidding themselves.

MOE. Money talks. Bullshit walks.

if Cincinnati or USF is ever caught cheating they will get post season bans. for sure probably.

Little bit of a problem here though. NBC, Fox, CBS, and Disney aren't paying SEC & B1G tens and tens of billions of dollars for any marquee helmet program in either league to get popped and for ratings to go down.

MOE. Money talks. Bullshit walks.

ND,USC,Tennessee,tOSU say hello. This scheme was on steroids and dwarfs all others sans deviant, deplorable Doctors who should be given a fair trial followed by a 1st class hanging

I'll tell you one thing... I'd HATE to be CMU right now

yeah, CMU is about to get nailed to the cross. poor bastards.

I expected a slap on the wrist

I didn't expect a Ridiculously lenient slap on wrist

We all know that many other things could and should have been done that wouldn't hurt the networks money pile

If I wanted to get "attention", I'd opine Vandy could win the B1G.  It would be silly, but it can get one noticed.  Vandy should be fairly decent this year with their QB, he's a player.