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Mdot21 · « **Reply #210 on:** August 21, 2025, 10:55:41 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 21, 2025, 10:40:24 AM

They are more influenceable and spend more time on line is why, not that they have the most money to spend. Folks like me are much less so even though we can bring the bucks when we want.

There is little point in directing some ad at me.

Why Advertisers Pay More to Reach Viewers Who Watch Less | Stanford Graduate School of Business

More active audiences command a lower advertising price per impression, while groups that don’t tune in as often cost a premium to advertise to because they’re simply harder to reach. So advertisers pay more to reach the young men who watch TV infrequently and the older viewers who stream fewer videos or shows.

awesome....you can google! no way!

now think for a second why this whole discussion even began as to why Fox Sports would try to hire Dave Portnoy- who has an online media company that mops it up with the most coveted 18-34 online/social media/podcast addicted demographic that advertisers jizz in their pants over.....

just because some old dusty curmudgeon on an insanely obscure anonymous message board that maybe 50 people in the entire world use has never heard of Barstool or Dave Portnoy means exactly....jackshit. and it obviously goes without saying that just because one person has never heard of Barstool doesn't mean it is not hugely popular. there are plenty of things i and many on this board have never heard of that are massively popular.

Fox Sports is betting big on Portnoy and his Barstool/online following that he will attract more 18-34 viewers aka the most highly coveted and important demo for tv networks/advertisers in order to do what....generate more ad revenue and make more money for the parent company.

Gigem · « **Reply #211 on:** August 21, 2025, 11:25:03 AM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on August 21, 2025, 10:55:41 AM

awesome....you can google! no way!

now think for a second why this whole discussion even began as to why Fox Sports would try to hire Dave Portnoy- who has an online media company that mops it up with the most coveted 18-34 online/social media/podcast addicted demographic that advertisers jizz in their pants over.....

just because some old dusty curmudgeon on an insanely obscure anonymous message board that maybe 50 people in the entire world use has never heard of Barstool or Dave Portnoy means exactly....jackshit. and it obviously goes without saying that just because one person has never heard of Barstool doesn't mean it is not hugely popular. there are plenty of things i and many on this board have never heard of that are massively popular.

Fox Sports is betting big on Portnoy and his Barstool/online following that he will attract more 18-34 viewers aka the most highly coveted and important demo for tv networks/advertisers in order to do what....generate more ad revenue and make more money for the parent company.

Once again, you take things far out of context. Imagine that. You said that Dave Portnoy, or DP for short, was the biggest media or whatever. Just because I don't know much about them doesn't mean that I don't know who or what they are. I know of them/him. Him being "hugely popular" doesn't equate to being #1. I don't even know what metric you'd use to gauge #1. Followers? Hits? Does DP do NFL, College Sports, all of the above? I don't really know. I know they at least do College Sports, mostly click-bait type articles with no real insight or depth. Kinda of like Saturday Down South and any other number of on-line sports media. I don't even remember it being a thing a year or two ago, and with on-line media it could be gone just as quick. Hell, Tik-Tok wasn't even a thing until ~2018....which was like yesterday.

And Fox sports....is the worst. I will watch them when I need to or have to, but Fox Sports getting in bed with DP means nothing to me.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #212 on:** August 21, 2025, 11:30:44 AM »

Quote from: Gigem on August 21, 2025, 11:25:03 AM

Once again, you take things far out of context. Imagine that. You said that Dave Portnoy, or DP for short, was the biggest media or whatever. Just because I don't know much about them doesn't mean that I don't know who or what they are. I know of them/him. Him being "hugely popular" doesn't equate to being #1. I don't even know what metric you'd use to gauge #1. Followers? Hits? Does DP do NFL, College Sports, all of the above? I don't really know. I know they at least do College Sports, mostly click-bait type articles with no real insight or depth. Kinda of like Saturday Down South and any other number of on-line sports media. I don't even remember it being a thing a year or two ago, and with on-line media it could be gone just as quick. Hell, Tik-Tok wasn't even a thing until ~2018....which was like yesterday.

And Fox sports....is the worst. I will watch them when I need to or have to, but Fox Sports getting in bed with DP means nothing to me.

I take nothing out of context, genius. The discussion was started by Badge and I was responding to him- in context. And I said Barstool was the biggest online sports media company. Because newsflash: they are.

Oh and 2018 was 7 years ago. Not yesterday. And TikTok is the most important social media platform there is for advertisers/marketers. Why? The most coveted demographics to advertisers/marketers are fucking addicted to that shit. Why do you think Larry Ellison- the second richest man in the entire fucking world- is jizzing in his pants trying desperately to buy it?

Again genius, Fox Sports hiring Dave Portnoy is not for you. They don't give a shit what you think. It's an attempt by them to draw in more 18-34's so they can do what? charge advertisers high rates in order to......make more $$$$. Jesus Titty Fucking Christ man. It's really not that hard to grasp.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #213 on:** August 21, 2025, 11:48:01 AM »

Quote from: MrNubbz on August 21, 2025, 08:47:39 AM

That'd still be ESPiN & Turner Sports your creativty with a narrative is almost to be admired.And Fox is still raking in over 10 Billion a year.Bleacher Report has 4.68 million YouTube subscribers.Barstool Sports has 1.88 million subscribers on their main ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

ESPN is a legacy cable network owned by a massive publicly traded company called Disney. Ever heard of them? Turner/TNT is....a legacy cable network owned by a massive publicly traded company called Warner Brothers. Ever heard of them? Bleacher Report coincidentally is also owned by Warner Brothers Discovery- and it is a decaying money pit for said company.

Barstool is an exclusively online sports media company (which is what I stated) and it's owned by one guy (Dave Portnoy) - it's not a legacy cable media channel owned by one of the most powerful publicly traded companies on planet earth like say...ESPN.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #214 on:** August 21, 2025, 12:10:25 PM »

Back on topic, I agree that some more severe penalties were warranted, but I didn't expect them.

The situation is rather uncomparable to past malfeasances in most cases where more draconian steps were taken.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #215 on:** August 21, 2025, 12:34:47 PM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on August 21, 2025, 11:30:44 AM

I take nothing out of context, genius. The discussion was started by Badge and I was responding to him- in context. And I said Barstool was the biggest online sports media company. Because newsflash: they are.

Have the Doc up your thorazine or try cleaning Portnoy's cack out of your eyes - no it isn't - not close.Are you to broke to pay attention?

ESPN: 13.9 million YouTube subscribers
Bleacher Report: 4.68 million YouTube subscribers
Barstool Sports: 1.89 million YouTube subscribers

https://www.businessinsider.com/espn-losing-social-media-audience-trump-facebook-instagram-jemele-hill-bleacher-report-barstool-2017-9

Gosh who to believe MDolt or Business Insider

"Just talk to a 54-year-old," says David Finocchio, co-founder, and CEO of Bleacher Report, the 10-year-old digital-media brand acquired by Time Warner for $170 million that has fast grown to 45 million unique visitors in the US, according to comScore. Bleacher reaches 250 million people each month overall thanks to its social footprint."Our social content is better because we have a more peer-to-peer voice," he said. "We connect with younger people like they're texting their friends, not like a classic media company shouting out.

"If a traditional media company uses terms like 'dope' or 'lit,' it comes across as condescending," he said. "They can't get away with it."

On the surface, ESPN's social-media presence does appear fairly lit. It has 33.5 million Twitter followers whereas Bleacher Report has 5 million and edgy upstart Barstool Sports has 900,000.

SuperMario · « **Reply #216 on:** August 21, 2025, 04:00:43 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 21, 2025, 12:10:25 PM

Back on topic,

Yes back on topic and a reminder that under the microscope, in 2023, Michigan still beat MSU, Purdue, Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State, Iowa, Alabama and Washington. And then they beat Ohio State again in 2024. And unless the universe was completely blind during all of those games, there's zero way possible that any sign stealing incidents could have happened for those games, which is knowingly accurate because every OSU fan on the planet was drooling at the opportunity to find it, yet failed to find both an incident and a win in either year. .

MrNubbz · « **Reply #217 on:** August 21, 2025, 04:38:19 PM »

Quote from: SuperMario on August 21, 2025, 04:00:43 PM

And unless the universe was completely blind during all of those games, there's zero way possible that any sign stealing incidents could have happened for those games,.

Denial isn't a river in africa, Hope all is well with you SM but just how far up booger's backside was that whopper fetched? Stallions wasn't let go until October and he handed out laminated sheets with opponents schemes,formations,alignments on his way out of schembechler hall.With the 2 hard drives that he threw into the pond along with the phones.Ya nothingburger he admitted this.

On Sept.23 Schiano participated in a Big Ten Network interview while walking off the field at halftime but then dropped the notable remark.

“There’s some stuff going on out there, so we got to slow it down a little bit,” Schiano said. “There’s some things going on that aren’t right as well, so we’ll talk about how to handle it.”

The NCAA found "overwhelming evidence" of an impermissible scouting scheme by Michigan football, spearheaded by Stalions. Stalions himself admitted to throwing his phone and hard drive into a pond. The NCAA report details how Stalions, who referred to his scouting network as the "KGB," would use a network of individuals to attend future opponents' games and film the sidelines to decipher signals

This included Stalions destroying his personal phone and throwing it, along with a hard drive, into a pond, according to the Detroit Free Press.

4 coaches let go and Harbaugh suspended twice - all in the 2003 calender year?

Over to you

SuperMario · « **Reply #218 on:** August 21, 2025, 04:50:09 PM »

if they were "cheating" after the microscope went on them, then the entire fanbase of OSU and staff that spent more time on that then scheming to win the game should be embarrassed for being that incompetent.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #219 on:** August 21, 2025, 04:54:53 PM »

Get back to me with the results of the NCAA findings against Ohio St improprieties and not bar stool sports or MGOin all of that. UM kept it up during that season up to and including when Schiano stated it. Again all that posted is documented,

SuperMario · « **Reply #220 on:** August 21, 2025, 05:13:36 PM »

Quote from: MrNubbz on August 21, 2025, 04:54:53 PM

Get back to me with the results of the NCAA findings against Ohio St improprieties and not bar stool sports or MGOin all of that. UM kept it up during that season up to and including when Schiano stated it. Again all that posted is documented,

Nah.. I'm taking the OSU approach moving forward.. No matter how much was uncovered. it was only tattoos and gold pants.. so with that approach.. it was only Stallions on the sideline and friends in the stands at opposing games learning opposition play calling. Then say it long enough that it convinces myself that's all it was and anyone else saying otherwise is crazy or a hater. That play has worked a long time.. I'm also going to make sure I'm saying it with a sweatervest on so it's more believable.. Just CMU.. Everything else overblown.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #221 on:** August 21, 2025, 07:21:39 PM »

Overblown???

Tell that to the UM students lining up to sue Weiss.Who Jimmy personally handpicked

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #222 on:** August 21, 2025, 07:50:34 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on August 21, 2025, 10:44:21 AM

In all seriousness (not that this will actually be done but):
Non-recognition of games and titles won in years during which cheating provably occurred (21-23). This matters a little to those of us who truly follow the sport without significantly impacting the Cheater's ability to continue to bring in revenue for the league so it is easy and the justice of it is manifestly obvious.

This is why I can't fathom why they didn't vacate wins.

Literally it's the most obscure and pointless punishment anyway. Nobody *actually* cares that wins are vacated. Only those of us die-hards even recognize the difference. It really affects nothing at all...

...which is why I'm astounded they didn't do it, just for show.

FearlessF · « **Reply #223 on:** August 21, 2025, 07:57:31 PM »

something that would be VERY easy for the conference to do

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