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Eh, other programs have cheated more egregiously for much longer periods of time.  Like the one Michigan will be playing this Saturday, for which this thread was created.

As amusing as it is to think of this game as Cheater1 vs. Cheater2, there's already a thread for that hate.  Let's leave it there.  I'm gonna start moving all of the name-calling cheater-accusing posts to that one.

You didn't watch me shit over anything. I just know more of the story from a personal connection to the deeper part of the "tattoo" incident, even though you want to blindly act like that's all it was and had nothing to do with Tressell having connections to legitimate business owners that filtered money to pay players through "jobs."

Oh look, a Michigan fan who says Ohio State cheated.  In other news, water is wet.  

The most ironic part is you acting like your program is holier than though while Michigan is the scum of the earth. 

My program isn't holier than though(sic, you meant thou).  

The difference is that when the institution of Ohio State was presented with evidence that their NC winning HC broke the rules, my alma-mater had the institutional integrity to fire him.  

Your program IS the scum of the earth because when the institution of Michigan was presented with evidence that their HC broke the rules they said "eh, that is what we expect from a Michigan Man."  Worse, when presented with evidence that their OC attempted to destroy evidence to obstruct an NCAA investigation, they promoted him to HC.  

It's why your opinion is worthless on this topic. You aren't reasonable. 

I don't expect you to take my word for anything.  Go look at the Detroit Free Press, Pat Forde from SI, USA Today, or the New York Times:

From the beginning you weasels have tried to reframe this as Ohio State fans vs Michigan.  One of Michigan's trustees even LIED and tried to pin the scandal on Day.  

That is the problem with the institution of Michigan.  There is NO accountability.  There is NO remorse.  There is NO apology.  There is NO acceptance of guilt just deflection, whataboutism, and willful ignorance.  That is why scUM of the earth is appropriate.  

When Ohio State had their scandal there was accountability, the HC got fired.  There was remorse.  There was apology.  There was acceptance of guilt.  That is what institutional integrity looks like.  

Guess what, some of us love the game, but don't find our identity in it or the teams we root for so we can easily walk away from it, even though we enjoy the game. Feel free to keep ranting like this. Character is easily seen by people's actions, both good and bad.

You aren't an alum nor a native.  You CHOSE to root for dirtbags and cheaters and SCUM.  You aren't in a position to question someone else's character.  

whataboutism isn't a real word. or thing. it's a stupid word that some moron made up. it's a meaningless concept.

What about this explanation of the fallacy though?

Newly designated so as to spare the rest of us.

I know @SFBadger96 will appreciate it.

this is actually an amazing idea and any M-OSU posts in other threads should be automatically moved here.

this thing has real potential to be the most toxic longest thread with most pages in this boards history. 

probably should’ve been done while ago. 

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This was an absolutely pathetic display and just another reason to hate SCUM.  

Moore was crying because his HC couldn't be at the PSU game.  

Here is the thing:
Many years ago Bo missed a Rose Bowl because he had a Heart Attack out in California.  This reaction would have been completely appropriate in a situation like that.  If your HC misses a game because he has a major medical issue then sure, go on TV and cry and say "We love you man", that is fine.  

That was NOT the situation in this case AT ALL.  In this case Moore's boss missed the PSU game because, as the NCAA put it:
"Harbaugh ran a program that was largely dismissive of rules compliance.  There was little, if any, emphasis on following the rules.  To the contrary, his program saw compliance as the enemy, made their own decisions regarding interpreting the rules to their benefit, or outright committed rules violations."  

That is NCAA-speak for "Harbaugh was a dirtbag cheater who ran a dirtbag cheater program.  As Harbaugh himself once said, "Hard to beat cheaters."  

Crying because your boss had a heart attack and missed a game while recovering in the Hospital is fine.  Crying because your boss is a dirtbag who missed a game as (lame) punishment for being a dirtbag is just childish dirtbag behavior.