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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #210 on: September 08, 2023, 08:08:06 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on September 08, 2023, 07:07:04 AM
FSU was an 11.5 favorite and by your logic Oklahoma should not have been allowed in the game. That's my point - you keep saying these big upsets should not have been allowed to happen. I agree, to some extent, that expanding the playoffs cheapens the regular season, though that is more because of the selection process. The BCS even had the same problem - the LSU-Bama championship game was an all time own goal. I don't think there is a solution when the "process" is obsessed with selections as opposed to objective ways to earn your way in.

FSU was favored, by 10, so thanks for finding my mistake.
But even with that, TCU was the biggest underdog in a modern NCG.  Guess why?
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #211 on: September 08, 2023, 08:12:07 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 08, 2023, 08:08:06 PM
FSU was favored, by 10, so thanks for finding my mistake.
But even with that, TCU was the biggest underdog in a modern NCG.  Guess why?
Why is at the corner of Who Cares and So What
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #212 on: September 08, 2023, 08:13:45 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on September 08, 2023, 08:12:07 PM
Why is at the corner of Who Cares and So What
Actually, this is wrong. The Why is because we have like three teams getting the bulk of the high end talent in college football. But God forbid we change the rules to help the other 120 teams.
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #213 on: September 08, 2023, 08:14:53 PM »
You just said "help the other 120 teams."

That's a lot of help, boss.
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #214 on: September 08, 2023, 08:16:43 PM »
we've been "helpin" them the past 3 decades
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #215 on: September 08, 2023, 08:18:10 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 08, 2023, 08:14:53 PM
You just said "help the other 120 teams."

That's a lot of help, boss.
I know - it's the major problem. Too many teams have little to play for before the season even starts. A team should be able to win their way to a championship no matter what. That is the essence of sports. Instead, we get lots of protection for big market brands.
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #216 on: September 08, 2023, 08:19:08 PM »
like Michigan and tOSU
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #217 on: September 08, 2023, 08:22:58 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on September 08, 2023, 08:18:10 PM
I know - it's the major problem. Too many teams have little to play for before the season even starts. A team should be able to win their way to a championship no matter what. That is the essence of sports. Instead, we get lots of protection for big market brands.
I totally agree.  That's why I've advocated for everyone to stop the lie and either demote G5 or create a tweener division.  
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #218 on: September 08, 2023, 08:25:43 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 08, 2023, 08:22:58 PM
I totally agree.  That's why I've advocated for everyone to stop the lie and either demote G5 or create a tweener division. 
It doesn't work unless there is a path to move up for good programs. Otherwise it's just the same old same old - the rich programs protecting themselves from the poors.
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #219 on: September 08, 2023, 08:26:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 08, 2023, 08:22:58 PM
I totally agree.  That's why I've advocated for everyone to stop the lie and either demote G5 or create a tweener division. 
I've been saying that forever. it's absolutely ridiculous that there are 135 FBS schools or whatever the hell it is now. there should be 60 FBS schools, if that.
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« Reply #220 on: September 08, 2023, 08:29:29 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on September 08, 2023, 08:25:43 PM
It doesn't work unless there is a path to move up for good programs. Otherwise it's just the same old same old - the rich programs protecting themselves from the poors.
they can move to the Big 12 or PAC4
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #221 on: September 08, 2023, 08:33:53 PM »
Programs like Akron average like 12,000 fans per game and have TV deals with Animal Planet for $600K/yr.

When they play Ohio St or VA Tech or Texas, it's like a homeless person playing poker with a CEO.  It's not entertainment, it's a bludgeoning.  
The best a Zip can do is go 10-2, win the MAC, and enjoy their trip to the Obscure.com Bowl in Mobile, AL.  
No thanks. 
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #222 on: September 08, 2023, 08:34:38 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 08, 2023, 08:33:53 PM
Programs like Akron average like 12,000 fans per game and have TV deals with Animal Planet for $600K/yr.

When they play Ohio St or VA Tech or Texas, it's like a homeless person playing poker with a CEO.  It's not entertainment, it's a bludgeoning. 
The best a Zip can do is go 10-2, win the MAC, and enjoy their trip to the Obscure.com Bowl in Mobile, AL. 
No thanks.
agree 100%.
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Re: Rich get richer
« Reply #223 on: September 08, 2023, 08:34:51 PM »
@MaximumSam if your plan is to get 120+ programs on equal footing, you're not sharing the same reality as the rest of us
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