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Topic: Retirement / What am I working for?

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Gigem

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Re: Retirement / What am I working for?
« Reply #462 on: December 05, 2025, 10:11:03 AM »
I think retiree health insurance varies all over the map depending.  Mine was pretty good, but I was still paying, I can't recall exactly, a few hundred a month?  Now I'm laying $134 a month for two of us, though it's going up January.  When I hit Medicare it went way down.
Most likely you were on an older plan, from the 70's or something.  My dad was on the same type deal, as was a lot of our other relatives.  It's one reason why a lot of boomers just don't understand how the country works anymore because a lot of the deals they have are simply out of reach for the average Gen X or millennial.  

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Re: Retirement / What am I working for?
« Reply #463 on: December 05, 2025, 10:13:46 AM »
A buddy of mine told me just that, the company announced a significant reduction in the retiree health insurance benefit, so he retired in time to get under the window.

So, yes, I think I have a Cadillac Plan.


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« Reply #464 on: December 05, 2025, 10:52:41 AM »
I had been on cobra after I retired. I turned 65 a few months ago, so I am on medicare.  My wife won't qualified for medicare for 4 more years.  We factored in the cost of health insurance when decided to retire. It is expensive, but within our budget.  I have chosen to go with medigap rather than medicare advantage, so I don't get eye or dental insurance through it.  Not losing either insurance until end of december, haven't decided whether I am going to get outside insurance for them.  Went with Medigap because we are not sure if we are going to become snowbird and have a place in Maine.  Medicare advantage is tied to a state where medigap is nationwide. 

I was a CPA and my wife was in the financial industry, so we are pretty conversant in finance. 

Initially we took are spending for the last 5 years (I track every penny, I know obsessive). Used a 4% inflation rate and added in extensive traveling for the first 2 years of retirement.  We then took our current asset used a 4% annual yield.  Then just ran it out.  Once my wife was convinced by this we would not run out of money we retired. 

Reality at the moment we are earning more than 4%, in fact after 2 years we have more assets than when we started, in spite of all the travel we have done.

We have a pretty mixed portfolio, some individual stocks, mostly ETFs and then treasuries.  We rebalance about every 6 months (generally when it looks out of the balance we want by a significant margin).

The big thing about retirement is not the money, but the ability to do things.  We have been on 14 cruises in the last 24 months and you wouldn't believe what you see. There are people who just can't get around, walkers, scooters, etc.  I don't see how they can be enjoying themselves when they can't do anything.  My wife's late husband died when he was 59 and they had all these plans that they didn't do. We decided we would sooner run out of money doing thing while we can than wait to make sure we won't run out.  Robert Herrick said it well "gather thee rosebuds will ye may"

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« Reply #465 on: December 05, 2025, 10:59:32 AM »
cobra was a very expensive option for me
I went to HealthCare.gov
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« Reply #466 on: December 05, 2025, 11:28:29 AM »
cobra was a very expensive option for me
I went to HealthCare.gov
What did it cost you?  Was this before the subsidies, or after, and what do you have now?  I think I recall you ended up going back to work.  

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« Reply #467 on: December 05, 2025, 11:31:17 AM »
The need to access healthcare varies dramatically from person to person, of course, but it makes me happy to see y'all thinking about it as a part of retirement.  Probably means you're planning around it in some way or another.  

One of my biggest takeaways working at my wife's clinic for a few years and dealing with the patients' insurances is that your quality of healthcare and thus quality of life can be dramatically impacted by the level of health care you can afford.  The most frequent problems I ran into were finding providers and oop expenses.  Most people intuitively understand the latter, the former was often not something they thought about until they faced it.  Depending on what kind of insurance you have, there might be a lot of specialists who will take you, or there might be very few, or none (in your area).  

Old age seemed hard on those people who had "lesser" insurance.  They tended to let a lot of stuff go untreated because they either couldn't afford it, or they couldn't/wouldn't drive to Galveston to the nearest UTMB where their insurance was accepted.  And I don't blame them.  Going back and forth to Galveston from here for doctor's appointments would be taxing on even a younger and healthier person.  A lot of them depended on their children taking them to appointments, which might entail their children having to take off of work, which can only happen so much, so often.  

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« Reply #468 on: December 05, 2025, 11:31:36 AM »
cobra was a very expensive option for me
I went to HealthCare.gov
Made too much money at the time to get any break on healthcare.gov.  Wife currently gets her insurance there.  

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« Reply #469 on: December 05, 2025, 11:40:11 AM »
The need to access healthcare varies dramatically from person to person, of course, but it makes me happy to see y'all thinking about it as a part of retirement.  Probably means you're planning around it in some way or another. 

One of my biggest takeaways working at my wife's clinic for a few years and dealing with the patients' insurances is that your quality of healthcare and thus quality of life can be dramatically impacted by the level of health care you can afford.  The most frequent problems I ran into were finding providers and oop expenses.  Most people intuitively understand the latter, the former was often not something they thought about until they faced it.  Depending on what kind of insurance you have, there might be a lot of specialists who will take you, or there might be very few, or none (in your area). 

Old age seemed hard on those people who had "lesser" insurance.  They tended to let a lot of stuff go untreated because they either couldn't afford it, or they couldn't/wouldn't drive to Galveston to the nearest UTMB where their insurance was accepted.  And I don't blame them.  Going back and forth to Galveston from here for doctor's appointments would be taxing on even a younger and healthier person.  A lot of them depended on their children taking them to appointments, which might entail their children having to take off of work, which can only happen so much, so often. 
Honestly Mike healthcare is absolutely my number one reservation.  Right now I think I'm paying about $800 per month for a family of 4 (technically my oldest son has his own but the cost is the same no matter how many kids).  AFAI can tell, I have excellent coverage.  AFAI can tell, the same coverage would cost between $2-3K on my own (per month).  I'm no dummy, I know the company is getting a bit of a break on the cost, but they're not getting a 50% discount.  That basically means they're building $1-2K in healthcare costs into my take-home pay.  Same deal with you being a .gov employee (.tx.us.state.gov).  LOL.  Anways I always heard state retirees have great medical ins.  

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« Reply #470 on: December 05, 2025, 11:53:01 AM »
ya know, I haven't even looked at insurance from the standpoint of what's available through this job in retirement.  The best shape to be in, of course, is if you can afford Medicare and then a secondary on top of that.  I probably need to look at retiree insurance here as a secondary, just to know what's available.  What I do know is that for regular ol' working schmuck insurance, it's fantastic.  We're thinking about switching my wife to my insurance when enrollment time comes again.  Even though the total premium between the two of us would go up a bit if she got off her own company's insurance, it would more than make up the difference if/when she has to access care.  Like last year, she had to have an anesthetized procedure with a specialist, and we bit all of that because of her deductible.  There wouldn't have been a deductible if she were on my plan. 

Just wish I felt better about staying here.  Having a pension to throw in the retirement mix is a plus, modest though it is likely to be.  The insurance is fantastic, and that's not nothing.  The paid holiday time is great.  Lots of perks.  But the pay is also a bummer, and I could be shoveling a lot more away in investments and savings if I had a "real" job.  

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« Reply #471 on: December 05, 2025, 12:00:06 PM »
What did it cost you?  Was this before the subsidies, or after, and what do you have now?  I think I recall you ended up going back to work. 
don't remember exactly but less than $200/month
I got a break because I only worked 6 months that year (4 years ago) made about $50K
yes, I'm back working
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« Reply #472 on: December 05, 2025, 04:48:27 PM »
ya know, I haven't even looked at insurance from the standpoint of what's available through this job in retirement.  The best shape to be in, of course, is if you can afford Medicare and then a secondary on top of that.  I probably need to look at retiree insurance here as a secondary, just to know what's available.  What I do know is that for regular ol' working schmuck insurance, it's fantastic.  We're thinking about switching my wife to my insurance when enrollment time comes again.  Even though the total premium between the two of us would go up a bit if she got off her own company's insurance, it would more than make up the difference if/when she has to access care.  Like last year, she had to have an anesthetized procedure with a specialist, and we bit all of that because of her deductible.  There wouldn't have been a deductible if she were on my plan.

Just wish I felt better about staying here.  Having a pension to throw in the retirement mix is a plus, modest though it is likely to be.  The insurance is fantastic, and that's not nothing.  The paid holiday time is great.  Lots of perks.  But the pay is also a bummer, and I could be shoveling a lot more away in investments and savings if I had a "real" job. 
I don't feel super bad about not knowing all the ins and outs about my retirement stuff. When I hired in, I was in my 20's, and had a long road.  I put money in my 401 but beyond that it's pretty much out of my hands.  Now that I'm 50 it's coming into focus.  

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« Reply #473 on: Today at 09:38:34 AM »
If you started loading into a 401k in your 20's, you're probably going to be in good shape.  

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« Reply #474 on: Today at 09:47:04 AM »
I started contributing to my Roth at age 20.
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« Reply #475 on: Today at 09:59:24 AM »
I've never understood the different annual cap limits on 401k's and IRAs.  Why can you contribute up to $23,500 to a 401k but only $7000 to an IRA?  Just seems like punishing self-employed people and I see no reason for that.  

Actually, I don't really see the point in limiting either one of them.  I assume it has something to do with the gub'ment not wanting to give you a tax break on too much of your money.  

 

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