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Topic: Remaining Undefeated and Winless Teams Before Week 4

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Remaining Undefeated and Winless Teams Before Week 4
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2023, 11:48:44 AM »

My contention is that an expanded playoff, if done properly, will mean more meaningful games during the regular season, and a more fair playoff. Plus it will make number of losses less meaningful, so that should make you happy anyway.
Meaningful games meaning.....what?  More teams grappling for one of the 12 spots?  Sure, you're right.  And about half of those will have grappled for a very public flogging once they're in the playoff.
And I could do a poll on this if you want, but NO, making the playoff only to be given a giant wedgie on national TV isn't all that fabulous for a given fanbase.  

Best-case scenario is you're a TCU, pull an upset, and THEN get wet-willied in front of millions of people.
You see, a less-talented team has to pull a major upset in order to win a playoff game.  And each major upset makes a subsequent major upset less likely (for several reasons).  

Maybe in your mind, getting into the playoff is the peak of certain programs and that replaces winning their conference.  I'm not really sure.  
But letting in more teams past the checkpoint of an expanded playoff harms their chances for something more.  
And again, all of this seems to stem from a program working their way up taking "too much time" in your eyes.  Who made you the time-keeper?
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Re: Remaining Undefeated and Winless Teams Before Week 4
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2023, 09:14:26 AM »
Using the same formula I do for creating a college basketball playoff (2/3 SOR and 1/3 KenPom SP+)

#1 Ohio State vs. #4 Oklahoma
#2 Texas vs. #3 Florida State

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Re: Remaining Undefeated and Winless Teams Before Week 4
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2023, 10:01:17 AM »
Using the same formula I do for creating a college basketball playoff (2/3 SOR and 1/3 KenPom SP+)

#1 Ohio State vs. #4 Oklahoma
#2 Texas vs. #3 Florida State
B12 B12 B12!!!


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Re: Remaining Undefeated and Winless Teams Before Week 4
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2023, 10:12:13 AM »
B12 B12 B12!!!


S - E - C will claim it

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Re: Remaining Undefeated and Winless Teams Before Week 4
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2023, 10:14:09 AM »
You see, a less-talented team has to pull a major upset in order to win a playoff game.  And each major upset makes a subsequent major upset less likely (for several reasons). 
This is akin to saying that if you flip a coin ten times and it comes up heads each time, the odds are it will be tails on the next flip.  The odds of course won't change.

And yes, it would mean their opponent would be less likely to overlook them, but it's an NC game.

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Re: Remaining Undefeated and Winless Teams Before Week 4
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2023, 12:39:56 PM »
S - E - C will claim it
SEC can claim it when they're cutting us checks.

It would be pretty funny if Texas or OU (or both?) made it to the CFP and represented the B12, in a year when the B12 commissioner is making open, public, disparaging remarks about both.

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Re: Remaining Undefeated and Winless Teams Before Week 4
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2023, 01:24:13 PM »
SEC can claim it when they're cutting us checks.

It would be pretty funny if Texas or OU (or both?) made it to the CFP and represented the B12, in a year when the B12 commissioner is making open, public, disparaging remarks about both.

I think it would be lovely if Texas, Oklahoma, USC and Washington made it

 

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