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Topic: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow

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MarqHusker

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Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2018, 09:08:28 PM »
It's well documented the B1G refs throw fewer flags than the other P5 leagues.  I always wager the under in P yards relative to avg, since those games include OOC refs from Aug. And Sept.

I believe XII consistently is #1 in penalties.

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Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2018, 09:34:38 PM »
doesn't seem to be the case for the Huskers since joining the league

2018 PENALTIES-Yards...............       67-619
  Average Per Game............         88.4

Riley
2017 - 75-728
2016 - 75-695
2015 - 94-829
Pelini
2014 - 75-655
2013 - 76-665
2012 - 88-847
2011 - 86-688
Big 12
2010 - 109-993
2009 - 100-894
2008 - 94-800
Callahan
2007 - 77-589
2006 - 74-614
2005 - 89-693
2004 - 75-561
Solich
2003 - 89-710
2002 - 85-784
2001 - 69-674
2000 - 71-622
1999 - 63-566

All Husker fans understand the inflated numbers in 2009 and 2010
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Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2018, 11:02:42 PM »
FYI this is the third week in a row where the actual answer was further than 3 standard deviations from the average of guesses. 

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Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2018, 11:07:53 PM »
Nebraska has been it's own outlier w flags for some time

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Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2018, 11:21:21 PM »
true, and unfortunately Frost's undefeated UCF Knights had many more flags than most last season
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Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2018, 12:36:55 PM »
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It's well documented the B1G refs throw fewer flags than the other P5 leagues.  I always wager the under in P yards relative to avg, since those games include OOC refs from Aug. And Sept.

I believe XII consistently is #1 in penalties.
not sure that's the case this season so far.
when sorting for conf games only, if this were true you'd expect b1g teams to be huddled near the low end of pen/g, and conversely the bigxii near the top end. neither is true so far this season.
using only p5 conference,  the acc is the least penalized, with the sec the most (but not most severely, see below).
the ave rank (again, only p5, so 65 teams (nd included)) of each conf is (simple rank sum/total teams in conf):
20.43/33.93/36.50/35.50/41.43
acc/b1g/12/pac/sec
the ave penalties/g/team/conf is (sum of pen/g per team/ total teams in conf):
5.26/6.36/6.53/6.33/6.79
acc/b1g/12/pac/sec
the acc has a huddle of teams near the lower middle (teens-20s)
the b1g has a nice spread from top to bottom
the big12 has 2 clusters, 1 near top, 1 nearer bottom
pac has decent spread, with small cluster near center
sec has cluster near middle/top middle, with none in top 20 (everyone else has at least 3)
as for yardage, the b1g leads slightly, meaning their penalties slightly tend to be the larger ones more so than other confs. ave pen yds/g/team/conf:
45.09/61.91/59.30/59.77/58.31
acc/b1g/12/pac/sec
sec drops to 2nd best from worst, falling more inline with the others (sans acc), meaning theirs tend to be of the less severe penalties.
this is confirmed in the yds/pen, which is here:
8.65/9.75/9.06/9.42/8.56
acc/b1g/12/pac/sec
sec drops down further to #1, with acc coming more inline with the rest.
so for sec, even though they get the most penalties on ave, theirs tend to be either less severe, or closer to goallines.


as far as any bias towards bluebloods and/or title contenders, etc, i don't see it after a glance. in fact, it could be argued bias against the contenders, as all but clemson (15), nd (13) (used only games vs p5 opp in chart), and lsu (27) are in top half, with the rest (bama 38, texas 44, ou 41, osu 61, mich 46, wash st 52, uga 43, uf 63) in bottom half.

here is raw data (pulled from cfbstats.com and dropped into excel) if anyone wants to play with it:

           
rankteamgames.penalties.yards.pen/g.yds/g.yds/pen.conf
1Washington5.17.158.3.40.31.60.9.29.pac
2Northwestern5.18.170.3.60.34.00.9.44.b1g
3Georgia Tech4.15.128.3.75.32.00.8.53.acc
4Minnesota4.15.165.3.75.41.25.11.00.b1g
5Duke3.12.97.4.00.32.33.8.08.acc
6Pittsburgh3.12.108.4.00.36.00.9.00.acc
7Iowa4.17.160.4.25.40.00.9.41.b1g
8Wake Forest3.13.155.4.33.51.67.11.92.acc
9Kansas State4.18.164.4.50.41.00.9.11.12
10TCU4.18.158.4.50.39.50.8.78.12
11North Carolina State3.14.134.4.67.44.67.9.57.acc
12Stanford4.19.153.4.75.38.25.8.05.pac
13Notre Dame6.29.261.4.83.43.50.9.00.Ind
14Iowa State4.20.181.5.00.45.25.9.05.12
15Clemson4.20.179.5.00.44.75.8.95.acc
16Michigan State4.20.181.5.00.45.25.9.05.b1g
17Arizona State4.20.198.5.00.49.50.9.90.pac
18North Carolina4.21.154.5.25.38.50.7.33.acc
19Virginia4.21.206.5.25.51.50.9.81.acc
20Wisconsin4.21.198.5.25.49.50.9.43.b1g
21Arkansas4.21.203.5.25.50.75.9.67.sec
22Louisville4.22.195.5.50.48.75.8.86.acc
23Virginia Tech3.17.140.5.67.46.67.8.24.acc
24Boston College3.17.132.5.67.44.00.7.76.acc
25Kansas4.23.205.5.75.51.25.8.91.12
26Vanderbilt4.23.143.5.75.35.75.6.22.sec
27LSU5.29.278.5.80.55.60.9.59.sec
28Illinois4.24.243.6.00.60.75.10.13.b1g
29Penn State4.24.217.6.00.54.25.9.04.b1g
30California4.24.231.6.00.57.75.9.63.pac
31Colorado4.24.249.6.00.62.25.10.38.pac
32Oregon4.24.218.6.00.54.50.9.08.pac
33Mississippi State4.24.214.6.00.53.50.8.92.sec
34Syracuse4.24.141.6.00.35.25.5.88.acc
35Indiana5.31.334.6.20.66.80.10.77.b1g
36Auburn5.31.279.6.20.55.80.9.00.sec
37Tennessee4.25.182.6.25.45.50.7.28.sec
38Alabama5.32.269.6.40.53.80.8.41.sec
39Oregon State4.26.247.6.50.61.75.9.50.pac
40Missouri3.20.166.6.67.55.33.8.30.sec
41Oklahoma4.27.273.6.75.68.25.10.11.12
42Rutgers5.34.323.6.80.64.60.9.50.b1g
43Georgia5.34.288.6.80.57.60.8.47.sec
44Texas4.28.224.7.00.56.00.8.00.12
45Miami (Florida)3.21.186.7.00.62.00.8.86.acc
46Michigan5.35.343.7.00.68.60.9.80.b1g
47UCLA4.28.245.7.00.61.25.8.75.pac
48South Carolina5.35.310.7.00.62.00.8.86.sec
49Arizona5.36.327.7.20.65.40.9.08.pac
50Texas A&M
Texas A&M
4.29.236.7.25.59.00.8.14.sec
51Texas Tech4.30.224.7.50.56.00.7.47.12
52Washington State4.30.323.7.50.80.75.10.77.pac
53Florida State5.38.316.7.60.63.20.8.32.acc
54Utah5.38.359.7.60.71.80.9.45.pac
55West Virginia4.31.303.7.75.75.75.9.77.12
56Purdue4.31.310.7.75.77.50.10.00.b1g
57Oklahoma State4.32.322.8.00.80.50.10.06.12
58Kentucky5.40.358.8.00.71.60.8.95.sec
59Baylor4.34.318.8.50.79.50.9.35.12
60Mississippi4.35.319.8.75.79.75.9.11.sec
61Ohio State5.45.429.9.00.85.80.9.53.b1g
62USC5.45.412.9.00.82.40.9.16.pac
63Florida5.45.402.9.00.80.40.8.93.sec
64Nebraska5.46.447.9.20.89.40.9.72.b1g
65Maryland4.37.356.9.25.89.00.9.62.b1g

 

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