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Topic: Minnesota (0-3, 3-3) at #3 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game

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Re: Minnesota (0-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2018, 05:11:53 PM »
Yeah, in the early days it took OSU two days to get up to Ohio Wesleyan by horseback.
Old timers will tell you about Custer,Sitting Bull,Crazy Horse and Michigan Championships.Oh this isn't the Pot Stirring thread,sorry
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Re: Minnesota (0-2, 3-2) at #3 Ohio State (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2018, 07:11:18 PM »
So just an honest question.  As a Gopher fan how long do other schools see the Gophers not competing.  We have not really been relevant since Lou Holtz and that was a 2 year flirt  
You're wanting a Supra-Mason level of accomplishment? 
First things first: How to get to a consistent Mason era level of football? I think it would take at least a 6 year investment with an imperfect (but not tire fire) coach. I think Fleck is at least good enough for that. But getting from that Mason level to the CCG era Big Ten championship level? It could take another decade, either with the same coach or by selling out for a really innovative longterm guy (at just the right time - very risky) once Fleck rebuilds the roster.
The most important aspect of both phases is that Minnesota stop with the coaching turnovers. Pick a "good enough" coach and go for the ride. Otherwise, every do-over begins at the Rutger or just-supra-Rutger level.

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Re: Minnesota (0-3, 3-3) at #3 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2018, 01:50:28 AM »
Another career day for Haskins, but what the hell happened to our run game and run defense?

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Re: Minnesota (0-3, 3-3) at #3 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2018, 02:04:59 AM »
You're wanting a Supra-Mason level of accomplishment?
First things first: How to get to a consistent Mason era level of football? I think it would take at least a 6 year investment with an imperfect (but not tire fire) coach. I think Fleck is at least good enough for that. But getting from that Mason level to the CCG era Big Ten championship level? It could take another decade, either with the same coach or by selling out for a really innovative longterm guy (at just the right time - very risky) once Fleck rebuilds the roster.
The most important aspect of both phases is that Minnesota stop with the coaching turnovers. Pick a "good enough" coach and go for the ride. Otherwise, every do-over begins at the Rutger or just-supra-Rutger level.
If Minnesota had won, this post would have looked incredibly stupid. As it stands, during the game, I found myself thinking about what I'd written here and about regretting it. I think I still stand by the post. But maybe UMinn can do it faster than I realized. A long way left to go, though.

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Re: Minnesota (0-3, 3-3) at #3 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2018, 08:07:46 AM »
Another career day for Haskins, but what the hell happened to our run game and run defense?
This will be our Achilles. Especially when the cold winds of November blow, although I think the D improves when we get guys back. Weird how they have shut teams down in the second half- that won’t work against Pursue at night, or MSU or Maryland on the road, or Michigan.
They need to swallow their pride and stop with the press/man coverage- go back to Tresselball D and make teams go10-12 plays by keeping everything in front of them.
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Re: Minnesota (0-3, 3-3) at #3 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2018, 08:30:57 AM »
Another career day for Haskins, but what the hell happened to our run game and run defense?
From the O-Line,Price & Jones are playing in the NFL from last year.Branden Bowen who  started last year until his broken leg.That had surgery again this September.So depth would be my guess.From the Def.line starters Trace Sprinkle and Tyquan Lewis,Sam Hubbard,Jalyn Holmes,LBs Chris Worley and Jerome Baker,DB's Webb & Ward gone - all playing on Sundays except Sprinkle.I know Hubbard and Ward left early and playing lights out.Prolly could have used some of those guys and it doesn't appear they've been adequately replaced.Especially the O-Line,takes a while to work those guys into place.So basically a 10 starter turn over
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Re: Minnesota (0-3, 3-3) at #3 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2018, 07:58:08 PM »
There is a “toughness” to running the ball consistently and stopping it. I am used to Ohio State having that toughness.    It seems to be missing most of the time. Don’t get me wrong, the mental toughness seems to be there, as evidenced by their ability to separate late in games.

I have some theories about this as well, and it could be one or some combination of the following( or totally not, just theories):

- ever notice how there is a correlation between pass happy teams, and their inability to run/ run defend consistently? I have heard many coaches and analysts discuss this through the years, with the thought being they spend a high % of practice time on the passing games when they go starters v starters.  

-lack of player leadership. OSU has always had at least one O- line and one D-line person that walked the walk.  think about Price and Decker and Linsley.  Who is it this year-on defense it was Bosa, but I noticed it dropped off after his injury.  Who on the offensive line is a tough ass leader?

- the whole Meyer suspension.  Does anyone else see a much softer version of him than was there before?

They may still come around on it, as it is not always present for teams until you get down the stretch.     Thoughts?
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