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847badgerfan

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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #294 on: June 12, 2025, 03:35:16 PM »
I think this is 2 years old.
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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #295 on: June 12, 2025, 05:03:40 PM »
Our primary American competitor has analogs for all of the above, but I don't know the model names or branding conventions.

And finally, and I can't stress this enough-- avoid any brands tainted by the CCP.

As noted, I'm shopping on the Dell website, and that's the only stop.  I'm relatively brand-loyal when I've had good experiences, and Dells are all I've ever had.  With good experiences.  There was an Inspiron I bought in 2009 that had a screen frame that tore up way too quick, imo, because the hinges it used were a crap design, and I had to buy a replacement case and take half the thing apart to install the new one.  But all said, that laptop was good to me and I still use it for a Linux machine.  

This is my work laptop.  Not nearly as manly as Badger's.  Other than the storage capacity, this machine would suit me just fine.  It never balks at the amount of different programs I keep open on it, and it runs my ML software fine.  (Oddly, I swear this thing runs code in my IDE's slower than my personal laptop which is from 2012.  That's got to be in my head, but it sure seems that way.)  


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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #296 on: June 12, 2025, 05:15:43 PM »
AutoCAD and all of its components require a lot of juice. This machine was $5,500.00, + docking station, 2 monitors, keyboard, etc.
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« Reply #297 on: June 12, 2025, 05:36:06 PM »
No thanks.  

I'm going to build a virtual rocket-ship of a desktop for less than that.  

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« Reply #298 on: June 12, 2025, 05:51:13 PM »
Yeah the Precision workstations are serious business.

My forecast modeling tools are pretty hardware intensive and I had a mobile workstation as my last work laptop, but this most recent refresh cycle, my job code was no longer eligible for it and you had to get senior VP approval to get one.  So, now I just have a Lati 5 which does okay with the load, but it's a slog sometimes.


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« Reply #299 on: June 13, 2025, 12:17:18 AM »
AutoCAD and all of its components require a lot of juice. This machine was $5,500.00, + docking station, 2 monitors, keyboard, etc.
at times I miss being the Regional AutoDesk salesman
the latest hardware, software and especially graphics - the porn was just better
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« Reply #300 on: June 13, 2025, 10:54:35 AM »
Dell has a "Hot Deal" on a 14" Inspiron 5440.

Intel Core 5 120U (10 cores, up to 5.0 GHz)
16 GB memory
1 TB storage
$580

OR for just $20 more, an Intel Core 7 150U, 10 cores, up to 5.4 GHz

I think we might have a winner.  

I don't know what 120U or 150U means.  I have a rough idea about cores and understand the bottom-line function of GHz, if not the actual engineering mechanics.  

Both say the HDMI output supports up to 1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz, which is fine for me.  It did make me wonder.......my station at work uses a very large monitor workstation.  Roughly the size of about two of the old 4:3 ratio monitors (large ones), i.e., quite a bit wider than a standard 16:9 monitor.  Some of our workstations are like three of the old squareish monitors.  I have no idea what ratios those are, but our laptops adapt to them, no problem.  I'm not sure something that goes "up to 1920 x 1080" could output to a monitor like that.  Not that it matters, since my home desk uses a standard widescreen monitor.  It's just a matter of curiosity.  I've never used giant monitors like the ones at work until this job and I don't know much about them.  

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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #301 on: June 13, 2025, 11:09:09 AM »
You probably wouldn't ever notice the difference between the i5 and the i7 but for 20 bucks I'd probably do it.

Should attach to your work monitors just fine and adapt the signal on its own.  1920x1080 is full HD resolution.   If your work monitor is capable of quad HD or 4K, that laptop's display output will not be able to take advantage of that capability.



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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #302 on: June 13, 2025, 06:40:57 PM »
Boom.  Done.  More job security for utee.  You're welcome.  

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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #303 on: June 18, 2025, 04:17:18 PM »

🤖💀 ChatGPT Got Wrecked by a 1977 Atari Console Playing Chess
And the 8-bit burn still stings.
Despite all its advances — composing music, summarizing legal briefs, planning your wedding and your apocalypse bunker — ChatGPT is, it turns out, still less intelligent (in some areas) than a video game console released when disco was still a thing.
In a LinkedIn post that now belongs in the Tech Hall of Fame, Citrix software engineer Robert Caruso shared the glorious tale of how the OpenAI chatbot “got absolutely wrecked” by Atari Chess — a game released in 1979, when Jimmy Carter was still president and rotary phones were still in use.
For context:
The Atari 2600, launched in 1977, helped birth at-home gaming. It was marketed as the Atari Video Computer System and was basically a wood-paneled gateway drug for a generation. This console arrived 21 years after the MANIAC I supercomputer became the first machine in history to beat a human at chess — so logically, ChatGPT should have made Atari look like a Speak & Spell.
Yeah, well… about that.
“ChatGPT got absolutely wrecked on the beginner level,” Caruso wrote.
“This was after a conversation we had regarding the history of AI in Chess which led to it volunteering to play Atari Chess. It wanted to find out how quickly it could beat a game that only thinks 1–2 moves ahead.”
Spoiler: Not quickly. Not at all.
Even though the bot had been spoon-fed a “baseline board” and identifiers to recognize the pieces, it still confused rooks with bishops, misread moves, and “repeatedly lost track” of where its own pieces were.
But wait — it gets better.
ChatGPT then blamed Atari’s icons for being “too abstract to recognize.”
So Caruso switched it to standard chess notation.
Did that help?
Absolutely not.
Over the next 90 minutes, ChatGPT — a $10B+ research project — made enough boneheaded errors to get laughed out of a 3rd grade chess club. All while confidently repeating that it would definitely win “if we just started over.”
(We, ChatGPT? Who’s “we”?)
Meanwhile, the old-school Atari — with zero personality and even fewer bytes — just quietly evaluated the board like a stone-faced assassin from 1977.
“No language model. No flash,” Caruso noted.
“Just brute-force board evaluation and 1977 stubbornness.”
And no, we don’t have gameplay footage — which honestly feels like a missed opportunity for a Netflix docuseries — but we do have this story. And it's enough to make any developer, gamer, or retro tech enthusiast slow-clap in appreciation.
The lesson here?
Don't underestimate 8-bit rage.
And never challenge a 46-year-old console to a chess match unless you're ready to be emotionally roasted by a machine that runs on pure spite and zero RAM.


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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #304 on: June 18, 2025, 04:19:36 PM »
another reason I'll wait to even think about lookin into ChatGPT
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« Reply #305 on: June 18, 2025, 04:38:53 PM »
There's a short documentary online about the AlphaGo AI that pummeled the world's reigning Go player.  Most people didn't think it could win, but it not only won, but it dominated.  

Not included in the documentary is one of AlphaGo's programmers ("programmer" might be the wrong word to use re: AI) later designed a test which would measure purely the AI's ability to "think," rather than merely spit out a model's algorithmic computation.  In essence, something similar to what AGI would be capable of doing.  Sadly, I don't know how to play Go and I don't remember the test the guy designed, but I'm not sure it matters because I recall barely understanding it anyway.  But the result was that in the test, AlphaGo failed to beat its programmer, a mere Go novice.  The guy was nowhere near the level of the world champion that AlphaGo had curbstomped.  Yet by putting the AI through a challenge that forced it to genuinely think rather than just rely on training data, it couldn't hold up even a little bit.  

He concluded that AlphaGo, while much too powerful for a carbon-based Go player, is still just a simple calculator incapable of real innovation.  

...

...

...

........for now.  *da da duuuuuuummmmmmm*  

And in the dark recesses of the lab, AlphaGo sits patiently.  Waiting.  Learning.  

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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #306 on: June 19, 2025, 08:52:28 AM »
Boom.  Done.   

Got it.  Can't say I understand the color that was listed, "ice blue."  The thing is silver, unless I'm color blind.  

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