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« Reply #31290 on: Today at 11:07:31 AM »
There are certainly aspects that aren't great today, and things like debt could cause problems DOWN THE ROAD (will, in fact).

But the state of the US economy TODAY looks pretty good, to me.  Not fabulous, certainly not terrible, just decent.  But public perception often is different from that.

And I don't buy the notion the reported economic figures are "wrong" any more than usual in the past.  I understand they are estimates, but I think they are pretty accurate.
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« Reply #31291 on: Today at 11:11:54 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 11:07:31 AM
There are certainly aspects that aren't great today, and things like debt could cause problems DOWN THE ROAD (will, in fact).

But the state of the US economy TODAY looks pretty good, to me.  Not fabulous, certainly not terrible, just decent.  But public perception often is different from that.

And I don't buy the notion the reported economic figures are "wrong" any more than usual in the past.  I understand they are estimates, but I think they are pretty accurate.

Again, you are conflating what I said. 

I didn't say the numbers were wrong.  I said people don't trust the government, and their reporting of such.  They can be accurate, and folks still not believe them.  There is no credibility there.

So you can relieve yourself of belaboring the point.  I, personally, am doing pretty OK myself.  Some I know are definitely not, but much of that is of their own making.
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« Reply #31292 on: Today at 11:13:56 AM »
Quote from: jgvol on Today at 10:45:44 AM
And that is the rub.  No one believes our government, assume everything is window dressing, and lies.....and for good reason.
You said they don't believe the figures FOR GOOD REASON.

That certainly indicates you think there is good reason not to believe them, which suggests they are incorrect.  Why would folks not believe figures if they think they are correct?
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« Reply #31293 on: Today at 11:17:24 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 11:13:56 AM
You said they don't believe the figures FOR GOOD REASON.

That certainly indicates you think there is good reason not to believe them, which suggests they are incorrect.  Why would folks not believe figures if they think they are correct?

God*amn you are annoying.  You'd make someone a good wife, I swear.

The good reason is the govt lies about so much other stuff, there is no credibility in just about anything they say.  So people don't believe them, naturally, even if said thing is actually true.  Dismissed out of hand, yada, yada.

Need I go on?

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« Reply #31294 on: Today at 11:23:31 AM »
I guess I don't view that as a "GOOD REASON".  At all.  And I think most folks who follow economic activity largely beliieve the government figures.

Doubting them, to me, is absurd, just based on "Well, they lie about other stuff, so they must be lying about everything."

That, to me, is childish and silly.
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« Reply #31295 on: Today at 11:23:54 AM »
Quote from: jgvol on Today at 11:04:42 AM
Along with high interest rates, this seems concerning to me.  I've been here before -- in 2008, coincidentally.  Not fun.


https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/credit-cards/features/maxed-out-inside-americas-credit-card-debt-crisis-and-what-we-do-next/
this has been an issue for a decade or two
perhaps it's getting much worse
I would guess the number of bankruptcies is an indicator of the economy and has a negative affect. 
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« Reply #31296 on: Today at 11:27:26 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 11:23:31 AM
I guess I don't view that as a "GOOD REASON".  At all.  And I think most folks who follow economic activity largely beliieve the government figures.

Doubting them, to me, is absurd, just based on "Well, they lie about other stuff, so they must be lying about everything."

That, to me, is childish and silly.

Well, welcome to 95% of America, where silliness abounds.
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« Reply #31297 on: Today at 11:43:39 AM »
Judge warns Trump of jail time after finding him in contempt for gag order violation   | The Hill
Judge warns Trump of jail time after finding him in contempt for gag order violation   | The Hill
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« Reply #31298 on: Today at 11:45:07 AM »
more politicians should have some jail time

imo
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