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« Reply #1834 on: April 14, 2024, 10:21:24 AM »
That "pink slime" story was all the rage for about two weeks, and then ....

I find this is true for most "news" stories of that ilk.  Everyone gets incensed, and then goes on about their lives as if ...


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« Reply #1835 on: April 14, 2024, 10:24:00 AM »
In March 2012, an ABC News series about "pink slime" included claims that approximately 70% of ground beef sold in US supermarkets contained the additive at that time. Some companies and organizations stopped offering ground beef with the product. "Pink slime" was claimed by some originally to have been used as pet food and cooking oil and later approved for public consumption,[11] but this was disputed in April 2012, by both the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) administrator responsible for approving the product and Beef Products, Inc. (BPI), the largest US producer of the additive.[12][13] In September 2012, BPI filed a defamation lawsuit against ABC for false claims about the product.[14] By 2017 BPI was seeking $1.9 billion in damages.[15] On June 28, 2017, ABC announced that it had settled the suit.[16] Terms of the settlement were at least $177 million (US).[17] Counsel for BPI stated that this was at that time the largest amount ever paid in a media defamation case in the United States.[18]
The product is regulated in different manners in various regions. In the US, the product is allowed to be used in ground beef, and it can be used in other meat products such as beef-based processed meats. The use of ammonia as an anti-microbial agent is approved by the Food and Drug Administration, and is included on the FDA's list of GRAS (generally recognized as safe) procedures, and is used in similar applications for numerous other food products, including puddings and baked goods.[19] The product is not allowed in Canada due to the presence of ammonia, and is banned for human consumption in the European Union. Some consumer advocacy groups have promoted the elimination of the product or for mandatory disclosure of additives in beef, while others have expressed concerns about plant closures that occurred after the product received significant news media coverage.
In December 2018, lean finely textured beef was reclassified as "ground beef" by the Food Safety and Inspection Service of the United States Department of Agriculture.



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« Reply #1836 on: April 14, 2024, 10:40:13 AM »
Eldon Roth, President and creator of BPI, worked for IBP and was on the board of directors.
I worked for Iowa Beef Processors (IBP) back in the 80s and spoke with Eldon on a few occasions.

The IBP beef processing plant and the BPI pink slime plant were side by side in Dakota City, NE.
BPI corporate office in Dakota Dunes, SD

both within a few miles of Sioux City, IA

local story , therefore BIG in the area
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« Reply #1837 on: April 14, 2024, 01:15:53 PM »
I love how just offering actual, normal beef isn't even an option.  

As long as it's 51% of what it claims to be, the other 49% can be whatever the hell you want it to be, provided you have the lobbyists for it.

Our economic system at work.
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« Reply #1838 on: April 14, 2024, 01:19:55 PM »
it's all 100% beef
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« Reply #1839 on: April 14, 2024, 01:41:30 PM »
Yeah, that 51% notion is not broadly true at all, not even close. 

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« Reply #1840 on: April 14, 2024, 05:10:08 PM »
Yeah, that 51% notion is not broadly true at all, not even close.
it's all 100% beef
I guess you got me there.  Snouts and tendons and shit.  Good eatin'.
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« Reply #1841 on: April 14, 2024, 05:12:55 PM »
Those are considered delicacies in some parts of the world, and at the very least a completely acceptable food source in many other parts of the world.

I sometimes find it amusing how we pick and choose which parts of an animal are acceptable to eat, or even which animals are okay and which are "pets" or "friends."

#firstworldproblems

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« Reply #1842 on: April 14, 2024, 07:54:11 PM »
How about muscle tissue?  Is that too hoity-toity?  It IS a first-world problem, but we live in the first world.  Everyone else needs every calorie they can possibly take in.  
We have enriched wheat flour and eat tons of meat.  Don't need all the other parts.  Sorry/not sorry.
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« Reply #1843 on: April 14, 2024, 09:14:59 PM »
pink slime is 100% muscle tissue

just gleaned from the bones and other areas with new technology to extract it

you want Snouts and tendons and shit - eat all beef hot dogs
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« Reply #1844 on: April 14, 2024, 09:53:01 PM »
you want Snouts and tendons and shit - eat all beef hot dogs
Or spend a couple days in Vietnam.

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« Reply #1845 on: April 14, 2024, 10:07:55 PM »
dog snouts and tendons
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« Reply #1846 on: April 15, 2024, 06:46:45 AM »
I think we all know more or less what's in hotdogs, and sausage.  Ground beef is just that.  We have ingredient labels which I know few read.  There is a lot of "hidden" salt and sugar in a ton of things, though it's all listed on the label.

There is a regulation on wines from California about the varietal in the wine, if not listed specifically.  Anything saying "merlot" as the type of wine must be at least 75% merlot.  This is not a big deal usually as a blend that isn't 75% of one varietal may be called simply "red wine" and still be superb.  Or not.

Wine "ratings" and "gold medals" seem to have abated a bit fortunately.


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« Reply #1847 on: April 15, 2024, 08:31:41 AM »
most people that have seen hotdogs made won't eat them
I still do on occasion, not often

pink slime is way better
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