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Topic: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019

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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2019, 11:06:57 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on May 13, 2019, 10:20:28 PM
When did Meyer go up against Pete Carroll?

I was referencing the game where Harbaugh guided Stanford to an upset over USC.
it wouldn't have been Michigan
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2019, 11:53:12 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 13, 2019, 11:05:58 PM
one season with Mack Brown?
FSU was already there, and UNC had an epic defense, but couldn't beat FSU.  
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2019, 09:05:41 AM »
FSU has been in the ACC for a LONG time

guess I was thinking of Miami?
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2019, 09:14:41 AM »
FSU has been in the ACC about as long as Penn State has been in the B1G.  A good while, but I wouldn't exactly say a LONG time.

Speaking of, if the Big East was able to get Penn State or Notre Dame (or even both) to join in the late 80s/early 90s, I think today's CFB landscape would look a LOT different.
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2019, 09:49:47 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 11, 2019, 06:41:06 PM
Individual rankings are click-bait.  Programs should just be placed into tiers.
Top tier:  USC, Texas, OU, Bama, OSU, Florida, FSU
2nd tier:  Miami, ND, Penn St, LSU, UGA, Michigan
3rd tier:  UW, UCLA, Oregon, Auburn, Nebraska, Clemson, Tennessee, A&M, Wisconsin
4th tier:  other P5 programs with any kind of history - VT, BYU, MSU, etc...
5th tier:  everyone else
I could quibble with some, but agree with your general point, that there are tiers, and depending on the moment, one job may be better or worse than any in it's tier.
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2019, 09:55:47 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on May 13, 2019, 10:20:28 PM
When did Meyer go up against Pete Carroll?

I was referencing the game where Harbaugh guided Stanford to an upset over USC.
I was referencing the 49-20 win of Purdue over OSU this year. 
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2019, 01:27:17 PM »

Oh okay. So Meyer is the Carroll, and Purdue is the Harbuagh led Stanford squad? 

Sweet. 
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2019, 03:41:57 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on May 14, 2019, 01:27:17 PM
Oh okay. So Meyer is the Carroll, and Purdue is the Harbuagh led Stanford squad?

Sweet.
Yep... The premise being "beaten by a team that shouldn't be within 3 TD's of them."

I thought you were criticizing Harbaugh--for obvious reasons--for something that happened to him at Michigan rather than crediting him with beating Pete Carroll. 
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2019, 08:12:48 PM »
Alabama lost to Louisiana Monroe under Saban, so that means he isn't a great coach, right?

As a part-time Stanford...appreciator (I wouldn't really say fan is accurate)...and full time disliker of Pete Carroll, I love that Stanford pulled that rabbit out of its hat under Harbaugh, but that doesn't mean Carroll couldn't coach (and, yeah, I think Meyer's OSU legacy is safe, notwithstanding the curious loss to Purdue).  ;)
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #51 on: May 14, 2019, 09:02:37 PM »
I'd say the Houstons, Cincinnatis and UCFs of the world are a cut above the dregs of the P5; Kansas, Rutgers, OSU3, etc. 
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2019, 10:31:18 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on May 14, 2019, 09:02:37 PM
I'd say the Houstons, Cincinnatis and UCFs of the world are a cut above the dregs of the P5; Kansas, Rutgers, OSU3, etc.
Sure, but the Houstons, Cincinnatis and UCFs of the world change every 5 years.  The dregs of the P5 remain the same.
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #53 on: May 14, 2019, 11:07:42 PM »
consistency is key 
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2019, 08:01:17 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 14, 2019, 10:31:18 PM
Sure, but the Houstons, Cincinnatis and UCFs of the world change every 5 years.  The dregs of the P5 remain the same.

No they don't. I'm not talking about any flash in the pan G5 like Boise, Marshall, etc. Those three schools that I mentioned are all in large cities that double as recruiting hot beds. It is a lot easier to breath a little life into one of those programs and dominate your crappy conference than it is to get anything, and I mean anything, going at a Rutgers, Kansas, Kentucky, etc. 
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Re: Ranking All 130 College Football Coaching Jobs for 2019
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2019, 11:33:28 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 12, 2019, 05:35:17 PM
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So if we ranked them....
1. OSU .715
2. Georgia .574
3. Florida .571
4. ND .565
5. Miami .560
6. USC .514
7. Alabama .511
8. Nebraska .500
9. Texas .432
10. Tennessee .417
11. Michigan .405
12. LSU .364
13. Oklahoma .353

I'm going to take a minute here to brag on my school's amazing consistency.  Here are all of Ohio State's multiple-year coaches with the years and their winning percentage:
 - Urban Meyer, 2012-2018:  .901
 - Jim Tressel, 2001-2010:  .810
 - John Cooper, 1988-2000:  .715
 - Earle Bruce, 1979-1987:  .755
 - Woody Hayes, 1951-1978:  .761
 - Wes Fesler, 1947-1950:  .608
 - Carroll Widdoes, 1944-45:  .889
 - Paul Brown, 1941-1943:  .685
 - Francis Schmidt, 1934-1940:  .705
 - Sam Willaman, 1929-1933:  .695
 - John Wilce, 1913-1928:  .688
 - Albert Hernstein, 1906-1909:  .731
 - Edwin Sweetland, 1904-05:  .652
 - Frederick Ryder, 1892-95 and 1898:  .500
 - Alexander Lilley, 1890-91:  .375
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