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You know LA better than me, but my impression is that the alumni base and local fans have been strong enough to support the Trojans throughout their history. But it's true, there is more to compete with in LA than in Tuscaloosa.

I do think it's true historically, as I think a lot of the older generation lines up on either side of the UCLA/USC divide. Especially many of those who didn't go to college, because they didn't develop their own rooting interest. 

I think a lot of the younger generation will lose some of that. Especially as more and more of each generation go to college. Those two schools are very hard to get into, and there are a ton of other colleges here, so even if they grew up in a USC or UCLA household, their loyalties get divided once they go away to their own school.
 

I've thought this for a long time mostly for recruiting reasons.  If you look at the programs that we talk about when we talk about "helmets" or "kings" or whatever, the only one of them located west of a roughly N-S line running through Austin, TX, Norman, OK, and Lincoln, NE is USC.  They are all by themselves and frankly I think they are the most underachieving program in the nation. 

I've noticed that, too.  Historically, I don't think it's fair to say USC has underachieved - there up there with all the big boys.  But even under Carroll, to have those advantages and that winning % and to only have come away with 1.5 NCs.....that was underachieving. 

I've noticed that, too.  Historically, I don't think it's fair to say USC has underachieved - there up there with all the big boys.  But even under Carroll, to have those advantages and that winning % and to only have come away with 1.5 NCs.....that was underachieving.

I think Carroll was just unfortunate that he coached before the CFP.  His teams performed extraordinarily well against top-tier opposition but they seemed to have a boneheaded loss almost every year, just a completely inexplicable loss to a team that shouldn't have played them within three TD's. 

I think Carroll was just unfortunate that he coached before the CFP.  His teams performed extraordinarily well against top-tier opposition but they seemed to have a boneheaded loss almost every year, just a completely inexplicable loss to a team that shouldn't have played them within three TDs. 

Harbaugh? 

I think Carroll was just unfortunate that he coached before the CFP.  His teams performed extraordinarily well against top-tier opposition but they seemed to have a boneheaded loss almost every year, just a completely inexplicable loss to a team that shouldn't have played them within three TD's. 

Pete was unfortunate that he got caught cheating and fled to the NFL

When did Meyer go up against Pete Carroll?

I was referencing the game where Harbaugh guided Stanford to an upset over USC. 

It should have happened sometime in the past, but that ship has sailed.  Charlotte is picked over by the big SEC teams, Clemson is a short drive from there, and then there's the basketball school thing, academics possibly, and a lack of history.  When was UNC ever the big dog even in the pre-FSU ACC???

one season with Mack Brown?