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OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #252 on:** August 17, 2019, 10:42:55 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 17, 2019, 09:47:19 AM

I view Bama as run heavy, but the stats can be colored by the games that were early blowouts of course. In contested games they passed more obviously.

Right, but this is true of everyone, so it's a universal, and doesn't have to be taken into account on an individual basis. That's why the "balanced" teams I've labeled aren't 50/50, they're from 39/61 to 46/54 (or whatever, I don't recall the exact numbers atm).

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #253 on:** August 17, 2019, 10:44:32 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on August 16, 2019, 08:41:28 PM

and if he had run the ball more and not had the INTs he may have had a great chance of beating Clemson

Right, and I fully expect Bama to throw the ball less this year because Tua's talents influenced Saban to allow the offense to pass more last year, and it didn't yield a NC.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #254 on:** August 17, 2019, 10:45:01 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on August 17, 2019, 09:57:26 AM

I feel the QB sneak/run up the middle could be very effective

but, I understand the risk of the QB taking hits between the tackles

Hey, Tommie and Timmy could do it...

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #255 on:** August 17, 2019, 08:10:28 PM »

Here's another candidate for worst QB card, this time by a NC winning team.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #256 on:** August 17, 2019, 08:21:28 PM »

If you have a top-flight pass defense in my game, looking at his "long pass" numbers, you could knock COMP down to 0-19 and up his INT to 83-99. So basically a 20% chance at a completion and a 17% chance at throwing an interception.

Yuck.

CWSooner · « **Reply #257 on:** August 17, 2019, 10:55:39 PM »

He wasn't much of a passer, but you did pick his worst year. Here are his career stats.

Passing

[th]Season[/th] [th]Cmp[/th] [th]Att[/th] [th]Yards[/th] [th]TD[/th] [th]Int[/th] [th]Long[/th] [th]Cmp%[/th] [th]Effcy[/th] [th]200Y[/th] [th]300Y[/th] [th]400Y[/th] [th]500Y[/th]
1973	SO	38	91	934	9	6		41.8	147.4	0	0	0	0
1974	JR	26	63	601	11	4		41.3	166.3	0	0	0	0
1975	SR	22	61	501	1	7		36.1	87.5	0	0	0	0
Totals	86	215	2,036	21	17	0	40.0		0	0	0	0

Rushing

[th]Season[/th] [th]Att[/th] [th]Yards[/th] [th]TD[/th] [th]Long[/th] [th]Y/A[/th] [th]100Y[/th] [th]200Y[/th]
1973	SO	179	887	18	47	5.0	6	0
1974	JR	165	659	9		4.0	3	0
1975	SR	190	578	7		3.0	2	0
Totals	534	2,124	34	47	4.0	11	0

So his best season in all categories was 1973, his sophomore year.

Some long-time observers of the Sooners think that the very young 1973 team, 10-0-1 with a tie at defending NC USC in the 2nd game, was the best of the '73-75 bunch. They were on probation, and ineligible for the then-UPI rankings, but that tie might have cost them the AP championship. Maybe not, though, as Notre Dame finished 11-0 and finished #1 in both polls. The Nebraska game over Thanksgiving weekend wasn't the last, but it was the best--27-0 with Nebraska (who finished AP #7) never starting a play in Sooner territory. OU's DC Larry Lacewell said after that one that he would take his defense and go fight Russia. It was the last televised Sooner game until the 1975 (season) Orange Bowl vs. Michigan.

The '74 team might have been a bit better, though. At the time, some national pundits were calling it the best team that no one would ever see, as there was no TV coverage and no potential for a bowl game. It went 11-0, and Joe Washington had his best year. They finished AP #1, while 11-0 Alabama finished #1 in the UPI.

The '75 team, which finished #1 in both polls, was the least good of the three by a good margin. Ball security was severely lacking. Some of the younger guys on the team thought that winning was just automatic, and the work ethic was not as good as the two previous years. Lost 23-3 at home to Kansas (admittedly, one of Kansas' better teams). Almost lost at Mizzou a week later, but Joe Washington saved the day with a 75-yard TD run and 2-point conversion in the waning moments. The Sooners lucked into playing for the national championship with losses earlier on New Year's Day.

MarqHusker · « **Reply #258 on:** August 17, 2019, 11:07:54 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on August 16, 2019, 01:02:05 PM

Not many. He's actually the kicker that scored the go-ahead extra point to seal #1 Texas' win 15-14 against #2 Arkansas in the 1969 "Game of the Century"-- the game where President Nixon awarded Texas the national championship after the game.

Ha, I just came across the game program for this game while unpacking my office. My Dad was at this game, for work purposes.

MarqHusker · « **Reply #259 on:** August 17, 2019, 11:13:19 PM »

Speaking of Bama, and interesting kicker names, how about Van Tiffin and his legacy, including the 52 yard bomb he hit in the 1985 Iron Bowl to win it. His kid Leigh wasn't too shabby.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #260 on:** August 18, 2019, 12:10:49 AM »

Quote from: CWSooner on August 17, 2019, 10:55:39 PM

So his best season in all categories was 1973, his sophomore year.

Some long-time observers of the Sooners think that the very young 1973 team, 10-0-1 with a tie at defending NC USC in the 2nd game, was the best of the '73-75 bunch. They were on probation, and ineligible for the then-UPI rankings, but that tie might have cost them the AP championship. Maybe not, though, as Notre Dame finished 11-0 and finished #1 in both polls. The Nebraska game over Thanksgiving weekend wasn't the last, but it was the best--27-0 with Nebraska (who finished AP #7) never starting a play in Sooner territory. OU's DC Larry Lacewell said after that one that he would take his defense and go fight Russia. It was the last televised Sooner game until the 1975 (season) Orange Bowl vs. Michigan.

The '74 team might have been a bit better, though. At the time, some national pundits were calling it the best team that no one would ever see, as there was no TV coverage and no potential for a bowl game. It went 11-0, and Joe Washington had his best year. They finished AP #1, while 11-0 Alabama finished #1 in the UPI.

The '75 team, which finished #1 in both polls, was the least good of the three by a good margin. Ball security was severely lacking. Some of the younger guys on the team thought that winning was just automatic, and the work ethic was not as good as the two previous years. Lost 23-3 at home to Kansas (admittedly, one of Kansas' better teams). Almost lost at Mizzou a week later, but Joe Washington saved the day with a 75-yard TD run and 2-point conversion in the waning moments. The Sooners lucked into playing for the national championship with losses earlier on New Year's Day.

I didn't PICK it, it just stood out as bad.
Alabama's Jay Barker was similar - the Tide won the NC in his worst season ('92). He may have had the worst QB season for a champ, in the non-option division.

My first pre-order for Whoa Nellie was 4 teams from 1969. I'm not sure why, as it's all over the fb page that teams start in 1971, but I was able to research them up and create them fully. Kind of neat, kind of a lot of work. I hope they're not all that hard to compose.
'69 Texas, Tennessee, Penn State, and WV

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #261 on:** August 18, 2019, 12:14:43 AM »

Speaking of those 70s OU teams...

I'm thinking of doing a giveaway - if a customer can beat '71 OU and can prove it by videoing it or something, they get a free team set or something. Their offensive averages are sick - 6.6 per rush and 12.8 per pass.
I think that's the 3rd-highest per rush number in the game (behind '83 and '95 UNL), and OU's 12.8 per pass is the highest I've found so far. So they'll be a handful, as they were in real life.

While '71 Nebraska's offensive numbers don't compare, they do boast a "perfect" defense, as far as the game is concerned. So there's a fighting chance.

CWSooner · « **Reply #262 on:** August 18, 2019, 01:35:01 AM »

Sooner fans of my generation revere that '71 team. Bud Wilkinson had been gone for almost a decade. Texas had won 12 of the last 13 meetings, and had whipped OU in 1970 41-9. And then the '71 Sooners ripped through their schedule, beating USC 33-20, beating Texas 48-27, rolling over the first 5 conference games, and then coming oh so close to beating defending national champion Nebraska in what I will always regard as the greatest of the "Games of the Century." The greatest offense against the greatest defense.

At the end of the season, the Big 8 ruled college football: 13-0 Nebraska was #1, 11-1 OU was #2, and 10-2 Colorado was #3.

I was a senior in H.S. who had followed the home-town University of Tulsa (my father's alma mater) more closely than OU. That season made me an OU fan for life.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #263 on:** August 18, 2019, 03:03:00 AM »

Didn't Tulsa have an epic passing game in the 60s, about 30 years before anyone else?

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #264 on:** August 18, 2019, 03:06:38 AM »

The QB for the 71 Sooners had as good a passer rating as Tua and Kyler Murray last year (199). An option QB with a 47% completion percentage matched those two. How? 10 TD, 2 INT and massive yards per attempt and yards per completion numbers.

Pretty incredible. Famous, name option QBs routinely had low TD-high INT seasons in the past...it was the norm. But for one of them to have that TD/INT ratio is crazy sauce.

Jack Mildren.

FearlessF · « **Reply #265 on:** August 18, 2019, 08:53:51 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 18, 2019, 12:14:43 AM

Speaking of those 70s OU teams...

I'm thinking of doing a giveaway - if a customer can beat '71 OU and can prove it by videoing it or something, they get a free team set or something. Their offensive averages are sick - 6.6 per rush and 12.8 per pass.
I think that's the 3rd-highest per rush number in the game (behind '83 and '95 UNL), and OU's 12.8 per pass is the highest I've found so far. So they'll be a handful, as they were in real life.

While '71 Nebraska's offensive numbers don't compare, they do boast a "perfect" defense, as far as the game is concerned. So there's a fighting chance.

the only way to win over the 71 sooners is to take Nebraska's defense and than get a punt return for a TD
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