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Topic: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2019, 06:14:20 PM »
It is too bad that there is no video evidence of Georgia Tech's 222-0 win over Cumberland. 
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2019, 06:55:24 PM »
Got a new one....


How did the 2014 Georgia Tech team finish 8th in the country while ranking 100th or worse in both yards per carry allowed and yards per pass attempt allowed?  It's incredible.

They didn't have an abnormal number of INTs on D(18).  Not great special teams.  A good, option offense, sure, but still!  VERY unique team.  
Their last 4 games were wins vs #18, #8, and #8 again (bowl).  The only loss was vs #2, by 2 points.



It doesn't make sense!
#1 in rushing offense @ 342 per game
#1 in 3rd down conversion pct
#3 in time of possession 
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2019, 12:22:33 AM »
I've been reviewing the top 10s, starting in 1971.  Houston really had a good run in the late 70s.  Anyone recall those Cougars teams, coached by Bill Yeoman?



Also, I had no idea Charley Pell had a big year with Clemson (11-1) before coaching at Florida (and getting us on probation).  
Texas' Fred Akers always had a great defense.
Boy, Bo sure did have a great run at UM - seemingly top 10 and often top 5 every year, but never breaking through.  
SMU was a top 5 team in both 81 and 82, but changed head coaches.  Did that have anything to do with the cheating that was going on there?


I just want someone who wasn't in diapers (like me) back then to share the thinking at the time of these guys/programs.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2019, 09:42:45 AM »
the SMU death penalty came in the mid to late 80s but I'm sure it started long before then, so I'd guess cheating had a role

either Ron Meyer was pushed out for cheating or jumped for greener pastures after successful seasons.  Greener pastures where he possibly wouldn't need to pay players
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2019, 03:11:04 AM »
I knew Texas wasn't great in the early 90s, but looking at the SWC champions each year, Texas wasn't the big-boy program at all.  Since Earl Campbell left, these are the champs by year:
78 - Houston
79 - Arkansas/Houston
80 - Baylor
81 - SMU
82 - SMU
83 - Texas
84 - Houston/SMU
85 - A&M
86 - A&M
87 - A&M
88 - Arkansas
89 - Arkansas
90 - Texas
91 - A&M
92 - A&M
93 - A&M
94 - 5-way tie, including Texas
95 - Texas

Add to that, I knew the SWC was weak by the end, but it had been weak since the mid-80s, going by number of teams ranked in the final AP top 25 each year.
Many years, the SWC only had one ranked team - 1984, 87, 91, 92, 93 - and only 2 ranked in 88 and 94.  That's bad...really bad.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2019, 06:35:32 AM »
I've been reviewing the top 10s, starting in 1971.  Houston really had a good run in the late 70s.  Anyone recall those Cougars teams, coached by Bill Yeoman?



Also, I had no idea Charley Pell had a big year with Clemson (11-1) before coaching at Florida (and getting us on probation).  
Texas' Fred Akers always had a great defense.
Boy, Bo sure did have a great run at UM - seemingly top 10 and often top 5 every year, but never breaking through.  
SMU was a top 5 team in both 81 and 82, but changed head coaches.  Did that have anything to do with the cheating that was going on there?


I just want someone who wasn't in diapers (like me) back then to share the thinking at the time of these guys/programs.
Meyer was offered the New England Patriots job and took it.

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2019, 08:19:51 AM »
The Cougars won the 1984 National Championship, becoming the first team since the inception of the AP poll to win the title without beating an opponent ranked in the top 25 at season’s end.  Oklahoma and Washington, two of the biggest critics of BYU’s '84 National Championship, turned down a chance to play BYU in the 1984 Holiday Bowl due to their desires to play a more nationally recognized opponent.

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2019, 08:20:49 AM »
 Penn State: The school's official colors were originally black and pink, but the baseball team's uniforms faded to dark blue and white, so the school permanently changed the colors to the now-familiar blue and white.  You read that correctly—pink used to be in the Penn State color scheme.  Pink.

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2019, 08:22:25 AM »
Georgia: Before the Bulldog became Georgia’s now famous mascot, their first unofficial mascot was a goat.  That’s right—when Georgia played its first intercollegiate game against Auburn in 1892, they introduced the ferocious goat as their lucky charm.

That game was played across the street from where I now live.

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #52 on: March 19, 2019, 01:33:25 PM »
Did you attend the game?  :88:
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2019, 01:43:46 PM »
Yes, but I was too young to remember it well.



I'm in the upper left part of the photo, barely visible.  

As Georgia Tech did not yet have its own team, the Athens Weekly Banner reported that "the Technological school was out in force wearing the colors of the University and aiding the lung gang by vigorous use of cow bells." The score was tied 0-0 at the half, and the second half, marked by heavy rain, produced a final score of Auburn 10, Georgia 0.

Between 2,000 - 3,000 people attended the game at Piedmont Park, with tickets 50 cents for adults and 25 cents for children. It was Atlanta's first experience with college football, and in the weeks leading up to the meeting, the city's papers explained the new sport to their readers as well as hyping the game by noting that "Atlanta is wild over the matter."

So now we know the origin of the cow bell thing.  Blame it on Tech.  The train track is not where the East Beltline trail runs, though that portion is not yet improved, it's gravel and mud.  

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #55 on: March 19, 2019, 02:58:40 PM »
Here's a football oddity for y'all.

2008 UCLA @ Arizona St when the Sun Devils beat the Bruins by 25 (34-9)

Now these were both mediocre teams, neither went to a bowl this season but damn was this specific game quite unique. 

Now while the UCLA offense didn't exactly tear it up (306 total yards) the ASU offense played like hot ass gaining only 122 total yards for the game. UCLA yards per carry wasn't great at 2.5 but ASU only managed 0.9 YPC. UCLA completed twice as many passes as ASU with a 9% higher comp % and 1 more yard per pass. 

So how did ASU win by 25 points? If you haven't clicked the link already you probably already are guessing turnovers and/or special teams and while that's not wrong, it's still quite rare what ASU accomplished to beat UCLA by such a solid margin. 

While the UCLA offense only managed 9 points off 3 FGs, that still outscored what the ASU offense did (6 points off 2 FGs). The ASU defense forced 4 Bruin turnovers and scored on every single one of them. That's absurd. Especially seeing that ASU's defense outgained their offense off these 4 turnovers. 

UCLA QB sacked, fumbled, and defense scoops it up and takes it 17 yards for a score. 
UCLA throws a 38 yard pick six
UCLA throws a 100 yard pick six
UCLA throws a 45 yard pick six

That's exactly 200 yards in 4 plays, 78 more yards then the entire offense managed in 50 plays. 
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