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Topic: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #238 on: August 16, 2019, 02:47:38 PM »
I considered that, but there's two things:

1 - this is true for all the top teams each season, so as long as it's across the board, it's fine, because...
2 - a "balanced" team isn't simply a 50/50 run-to-pass ratio, it's lower than that.


Plus, as the "run heavy" moniker for a team in my game is simply what the opponent's defense is playing the percentages against in its play call in solo play, it makes sense.  If you're playing anyone, your goal is most often to stop the run first.  




If all of that doesn't suit someone, I'm fine with it, as my game is designed to not have all the tangents and branches a Strat-o-matic or APBA does.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #239 on: August 16, 2019, 02:51:38 PM »
that isn't what they called him when he missed

how many did he miss?
He was 6 for 8, 75%.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #240 on: August 16, 2019, 02:54:24 PM »
gee, just about wore out that leg

hah, Osborne didn't like to rely on kickers either.  4th and 6 or less in FG range, toss sweep or option call, maybe even a play action pass to the WIDE OPEN TE
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #241 on: August 16, 2019, 04:00:02 PM »
I considered that, but there's two things:

1 - this is true for all the top teams each season, so as long as it's across the board, it's fine, because...
2 - a "balanced" team isn't simply a 50/50 run-to-pass ratio, it's lower than that.


Plus, as the "run heavy" moniker for a team in my game is simply what the opponent's defense is playing the percentages against in its play call in solo play, it makes sense.  If you're playing anyone, your goal is most often to stop the run first. 




If all of that doesn't suit someone, I'm fine with it, as my game is designed to not have all the tangents and branches a Strat-o-matic or APBA does.
that's true, but presumably a game between top teams (which this game will almost exclusively feature) will be close. and using overall % wouldn't give an accurate representation of the offense, nor would it be advisable for defenses to use that %.

for the last 10 years or so, it'd be relatively easy to find those % for teams. but for anything further back it might be a headache. so i understand trying to keep it simple.

it's also almost impossible to account for the rpo. bama ran the rpo probably 65-70% last year. that's a really high %, fwiw, but with tua he was perfect for it. he could make good, quick reads, and had the arm talent and athletic ability to make the throws/runs needed to keep the threat true. but how do you account for that play call in a game like yours? i have no idea, and just using % of what option was actually chosen is probably best/simplest way to do so.

saw your post on the off topic board, but didn't get very far into them. you getting ready to ship some?

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #242 on: August 16, 2019, 07:01:53 PM »
Drew is getting the website ready, and then we'll be open for business!  



I asked permission and will have this site posted on the game board and encourage those who buy it to visit the site.  Ideally, they'd come for gameplay questions or comments and see the rest of the forums and run up traffic here.  
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« Reply #243 on: August 16, 2019, 07:08:22 PM »
Looking at Bama....
YEAR...PASS%/RUN%
2009...37/63
2011...41/59
2012...37/63
2015...41/59
2017...35/65
Here we see Saban's preference for his offensive play-calling.  Most of these years, he has 2 stud RBs carrying the load and an efficient QB.  He knows his defense is good enough to win championships as long as the offense didn't muck things up.




2018...43/57
Then we have 2018, with a real passing threat at QB.  Sure, it's just a few percentage points, but it's at the top in terms of pass/run ratio.  I'm sure 2018 Bama's first half play-calling skews towards more passing, but comparing it to previous championship seasons still shows Saban's reluctance to trust his QB to pass a lot.  In 2018, he trusted his QB more and let him throw it more often.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #244 on: August 16, 2019, 07:14:30 PM »
...and I've really expanded the teams available and packages.  Any team from 2005-on is easily created, and while the top 10 each year back to 1971 is easier to research, I'm really encouraging customers to inquire about other teams.



This one guy who emailed me wants 4 teams from 1969, and I'm going to try to appease him.  



But for those who want to replay, say, 2006's Ohio State's B10 schedule, I could produce that easily and provide it.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #245 on: August 16, 2019, 08:41:28 PM »
Looking at Bama....

2018...43/57
Then we have 2018, with a real passing threat at QB.  Sure, it's just a few percentage points, but it's at the top in terms of pass/run ratio.  I'm sure 2018 Bama's first half play-calling skews towards more passing, but comparing it to previous championship seasons still shows Saban's reluctance to trust his QB to pass a lot.  In 2018, he trusted his QB more and let him throw it more often.
and if he had run the ball more and not had the INTs he may have had a great chance of beating Clemson
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #246 on: August 16, 2019, 09:24:15 PM »
gee, just about wore out that leg
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Yeah, 8 field goal attempts.

Was that in a season, or a career?
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« Reply #247 on: August 16, 2019, 11:31:57 PM »
1969 season 
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #248 on: August 16, 2019, 11:34:27 PM »
Back to Bama under Saban, pre-Tua....does anyone else NOT consider them a run-heavy team?  For me, they pair their stud RBs, from Ingram + Richardson for 2 years to Richardson + Lacy to Lacy + Yeldon....Henry was sort of a one-man gang, but he was huge.  


They ran the ball a lot because it's less risky than passing and all Bama had to do to beat anyone was minimize risk.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #249 on: August 17, 2019, 09:39:47 AM »
with Bama's defense

just hang onto the ball and eat clock
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #250 on: August 17, 2019, 09:47:19 AM »
I view Bama as run heavy, but the stats can be colored by the games that were early blowouts of course.  In contested games they passed more obviously.  I think they were rarely behind, and if so, not by much that they had to pass on most downs.

This is why I like having a great offensive line (who wouldn't?).  You basically allow near zero chance of being upset by a Vanderbilt kind of team because you eat clock and wear them out and just plow down the field 5-6-7 yards per.  I hope to see an example of that in Week One.

I watched our HS team play Moeller when Anthony Munoz' kid was there.  They had three guys on their OL that were HUGE.  Any time they had third down they'd QB sneak for 5-6-7 yards.  They were not stoppable with DLs weighing maybe 230 and their OL being 300+.  Moeller would play around on 1st and 2nd and perhaps end up behind the chains and then QB sneak for a first, and not the typical one yard sneak.




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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #251 on: August 17, 2019, 09:57:26 AM »
I feel the QB sneak/run up the middle could be very effective

but, I understand the risk of the QB taking hits between the tackles
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