Honestly, I reject the premise...
Purdue has been a mess since 1969 when Mollenkopf retired. You bring up 1980, but the two interim coaches between Mollenkopf and Jim Young went 13-18 for three years and then 18-25-1 for four. So between 1970 and 1976 the team sucked.
And to be even more honest, outside of Mollenkopf they weren't very good between WWII and him taking over in 1956. Stu Holcomb who coached from 1947 to 1955 had a 0.457 winning percentage.
It's about coaching. When the team has had really good coaching, they've been a little dangerous. When they haven't, they've been a patsy. Post WWII, those coaches are Mollenkopf, Young, Tiller, and Brohm. Everyone else has been a failure.
Yeah it is coaching but there is, I think, a certain institutional baseline that you work off of. In the new portal/NIL era it is all about NIL money but I'm talking before that. We've talked about this before with reference to both football and basketball coaches. If I were an AD, I'd look at my school's history and that would be my baseline. Worse than that, fire the coach because the average hire will be an improvement. Better than that, keep the coach even if you *THINK* that another guy *MIGHT* get you to the proverbial next level because while he might, the average hire will be worse than the guy you have now.
Purdue had ups-and-downs like every team but from 1936-1980 the average of those ups-and-downs was decent. They were never a top tier program but I think that
@ManHawk made a good point here:
So Purdue and other Big Ten schools that were considered 2nd tier in the late 70's got leaped frogged in the Big Ten pecking order.
From 1936-1980 I think that Purdue was what he called "2nd tier". They weren't at Ohio State's level but then nobody really was. Minnesota was great in the first few years of the poll but collapsed and never recovered post-WWII. Michigan was great immediately after the war but then fell off for the better part of two decades before storming back starting in 1969. For those 45 years, Purdue was generally in the group right behind that.
For another basis of comparison, from 1936-1980 Purdue went 228-179-23 which is 0.55698 and 44th in the Nation. Here is how that stacks up in the League:
- #4 Ohio State .73666
- #7 Michigan .70615
- #17 Michigan State .63529 (this is all of 1936-1980 even though they were in until the 50s)
- #44 Purdue .55698
- #48 Minnesota .55023
- #90 Wisconsin .46977
- #104 Illinois .43271
- #109 Iowa .40588
- #110 Indiana .39211
- #111 Northwestern .38615
That isn't great but it is definitely second tier especially when you consider that Minnesota's percentage is propped up by being great early but then they fell off.
By comparison, in the last 43 years (1981-2023 - I used 1981-2023 because Stassen doesn't have 2024-2025 entered):
- #1 Ohio State .78463
- #6 Michigan .71951
- #10 Penn State .70377 (this is all of 1981-2023 even though they weren't in until 1993)
- #23 Iowa .62712
- #27 Wisconsin .61936
- #35 Michigan State .55202
- #70 Minnesota .46471
- #76 Illinois .44170
- #81 Purdue .43294
- #84 Northwestern .42338
- #88 Indiana .38978
I only included teams that joined at least 20 years ago. Even ignoring PSU, Purdue fell from 4th among the traditional 10 to 8th. That is a big drop basically from second tier to doormat.
Yes, Purdue had periods of being a doormat prior to 1980 but they always recovered and they maintained an average of "decent". After 1980 they had a period of being 'decent' but that was it. There is an argument for Brohm's tenure as you mentioned but he was only there six years and one of those was the goofy COVID season so it is hard to get a solid read on that. There were two 6-6 years (finished 7-6 then 6-7 based on bowl result) then two sub .500 years, then two 8-4 years that finished 9-4 (won bowl) and 8-6 (lost B1GCG, lost bowl).