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OrangeAfroMan

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QB Awards
« on: April 21, 2021, 01:27:21 PM »
They've got the Davey O'Brien, the Unitas, and the Baugh trophy for QBs.  I wonder if we can read into any of them by looking at the winners they picked.  I was looking at 2003, as each chose a different QB.
2003:
O'Brien:  Jason White, OU (Heisman winner)
Unitas:  Eli Manning, OM
Baugh:  BJ Symons, TTU
Perhaps the only obvious thing here is that the Baugh went with the big-stats guy.
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2004:
O'Brien:  Jason White, OU (again)
Unitas:  White
Baugh:  Stefan Lefors, UL
I remember Lefors had a great pass rating.  Interesting the Unitas people passed on White in his Heisman year, but awarded him here.
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2005
O'Brien:  Vince Young, Texas
Unitas:  Matt Leinart, USC (2004 Heisman winner)
Baugh:  Brady Quinn, ND
Not sure what to make of this season.
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2006
O'Brien:  Troy Smith, OSU (Heisman winner)
Unitas:  Brady Quinn, ND
Baugh:  Colt Brennan, Hawai'i
Here's the 2nd time the Baugh has awarded the big-stat guy.  
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2007
O'Brien:  Tim Tebow, Florida (Heisman winner)
Unitas:  Matt Ryan, BC
Baugh:  Graham Harrell, TTU
And here's a trend with the Baugh - big stats.  I wonder if the Unitas is trying to go with the great season+high draft pick idea?  It's called the "Golden Arm" trophy, if that means anything (and I tend to think not, as Tony Rice won it in '89).
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2008
O'Brien:  Sam Bradford, OU (Heisman winner)
Unitas:  Graham Harrell, TTU
Baugh:  Bradford
Hmmph.  I need to look at more years.  Do you guys glean anything?  I assume you don't care, but any musings?
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Re: QB Awards
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2021, 01:56:20 PM »
Something I like is that they're not unanimous... Heck, the only years I saw one player win more than one award that year was 2004 with White winning 2 of 3 and 2008 with Bradford winning 2 of 3. At the very least they're picking based on some unique characteristics.

But... Brady Quinn? Dude put up great stats--until a defense could get ANY pass rush, and then he was worse than useless. 

But here's what I see:


  • O'Brien: Picked the Heisman winner ever year except 2004 and 2005, and in 2005 couldn't have picked the Heisman is it went an RB. So seems like a "best player on best team" sort of thing. However, 2005 makes perfect sense as the award is apparently given in February, whereas the Heisman is given before the bowl games, and Texas and Vince Young had that amazing Rose Bowl / BCSMNC performance. The outlier then is 2004, when Leinart won the Heisman AND the NC, over OU, yet they still gave it to White.
  • Unitas: Not sure if I see a clear trend. With Quinn and Ryan I was thinking maybe East Coast bias, but then he picked Harrell and White. I don't know enough about all those QBs to make any real statement about the trend.
  • Baugh: Definitely seems to be "big stats" guy as you surmise. 


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Re: QB Awards
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2021, 02:29:48 PM »
Unitas focuses on upperclassmen. So might slant senior?

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Re: QB Awards
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2021, 02:31:15 PM »
Unitas focuses on upperclassmen. So might slant senior?
Didn't Scotty win that in 2010?
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Re: QB Awards
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2021, 02:32:20 PM »

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Re: QB Awards
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2021, 02:36:12 PM »
Hmmph.  I need to look at more years.  Do you guys glean anything?  I assume you don't care, but any musings?
I don't care much, because what I glean is just someone's subjective opinion regarding who they hand out an award for achievement
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Re: QB Awards
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2021, 04:15:03 PM »
I don't care much, because what I glean is just someone's subjective opinion regarding who they hand out an award for achievement
That's fair.  I just like digging around and toiling in this stuff.  
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Re: QB Awards
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2021, 05:22:20 PM »
true, it's nice when a kid from your favorite program gets an award, but it's really not that important

rather have the conference champ ring in the end

or the 1st round draft selection
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