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Mdot21

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #98 on: November 13, 2018, 08:03:57 PM »
ND is better, too, not least because it has upgraded its quarterback play.

Maybe we should all hope for a rematch. :-)
rematch would definitely be cool. But I don't see how that happens. I think if Michigan or ND are 4 they would have to play Bama and both teams would get bounced out immediately.
Maybe we need to hope for a Clemson loss, ND to move to 2 and Michigan to move to 3 and Clemson to move down to 5 or 6 and then Georgia to move to 4 and then Alabama to beat Georgia and re-open the 4th spot for Clemson or Oklahoma.

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« Reply #99 on: November 13, 2018, 08:07:30 PM »
If Bama loses, it's possible the ranking is Clemson, ND, M, UGa.
I think UGa would probably pass Michigan, because Bama is so much better than OSU, but on SOS and damage of loss, they may not.
So yeah, a rematch is impossible unless both win in the national semifinal. That's the real dream.

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« Reply #100 on: November 13, 2018, 08:08:56 PM »
If Bama loses, it's possible the ranking is Clemson, ND, M, UGa.
I think UGa would probably pass Michigan, because Bama is so much better than OSU, but on SOS and damage of loss, they may not.
So yeah, a rematch is impossible unless both win in the national semifinal. That's the real dream.
wow, yeah. could you imagine a National Title match of Michigan vs ND? Might be the highest rated game ever if that happened.

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« Reply #101 on: November 13, 2018, 10:15:50 PM »
I rank Michigan over Notre Dame because I like Michigan and don't like Notre Dame.

Similarly, I'd rank OU at #127.


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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #102 on: November 14, 2018, 07:54:43 AM »
IMO, Dexter Williams being suspended was a bigger deal than Notre Dame playing its second best QB.

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« Reply #103 on: November 14, 2018, 08:04:08 AM »
I rank Michigan over Notre Dame because I like Michigan and don't like Notre Dame.

Similarly, I'd rank OU at #127.


OU's defense is about #127.

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #104 on: November 14, 2018, 08:13:58 AM »
I think the calamity, which of course I'd love to see, is if UGA beats Bama say 26-23 in OT, to pick a score out of the blue, and Bama has been #1 all year and is 12-1.

Is that a "play in game"?  Or is it considered as just another game?  It depends on what Michigan does as well, and OU/WVU and Wazzu.  But imagine we have Clemson at 13-0 and ND at 12-0 taking the top spots.  UGA at 12-1 would be in there almost certainly, and then what?

Michigan 12-1 or Bama 12-1?  I think Wazzu and OU/WVU would be below that pair, as they are now.

One could argue that Michigan already had their shot and lost to a playoff team, but the same would be true for Bama.  Are they truly picking the "best teams"?  Or "the best teams for the playoff?"  I view those two things as being slightly different.

That would be fascinating.

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« Reply #105 on: November 14, 2018, 08:41:14 AM »
I think the calamity, which of course I'd love to see, is if UGA beats Bama say 26-23 in OT, to pick a score out of the blue, and Bama has been #1 all year and is 12-1.

Is that a "play in game"?  Or is it considered as just another game?  It depends on what Michigan does as well, and OU/WVU and Wazzu.  But imagine we have Clemson at 13-0 and ND at 12-0 taking the top spots.  UGA at 12-1 would be in there almost certainly, and then what?

Michigan 12-1 or Bama 12-1?  I think Wazzu and OU/WVU would be below that pair, as they are now.

One could argue that Michigan already had their shot and lost to a playoff team, but the same would be true for Bama.  Are they truly picking the "best teams"?  Or "the best teams for the playoff?"  I view those two things as being slightly different.

That would be fascinating.
I think Michigan wouid be in over Alabama.  While this year is supposed to exist in a vacuum those are still human beings in that committee room. I think the committee would feel really queasy about putting a non champion Alabama over the Big 10 champ two years in a row, especially if this year those teams would have the exact same record.

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #106 on: November 14, 2018, 09:07:27 AM »
I'd probably go with Michigan myself, but the COM folks might go the other way.

Does last year matter at all?  If so, I might argue that Bama won it last year and that tended to validate their selection.

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« Reply #107 on: November 14, 2018, 09:54:54 AM »
it'd be mich over bama and i don't think last season would have much if any effect on it. nor should it.

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #108 on: November 14, 2018, 10:06:34 AM »
IMO, Dexter Williams being suspended was a bigger deal than Notre Dame playing its second best QB.
I do too. 
Honestly, Book plays into the sets Don Brown is most comfortable with (which isn't to say that he can't excel against a running QB but that math always wins -- no defense can better defend 11 than 10 on the ground).

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #109 on: November 14, 2018, 10:08:47 AM »
it'd be mich over bama and i don't think last season would have much if any effect on it. nor should it.
I think you're right but I'm also a fan, so that's nothing. Instead, I'll say that both of us would be sweating it out. It'd be close.

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #110 on: November 14, 2018, 10:09:17 AM »
I don't think Bama will lose, though. UGa isn't nearly as special.

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #111 on: November 14, 2018, 10:16:47 AM »
Yup, last season is last season.  The committee's job is to pick the four best teams.  And a one-loss non-champ Bama showed they were better than one-loss ACC and SEC champs. 

But the eye test is a huge factor.  If Bama loses a squeaker to UGA in Atlanta, it'd likely be down to a one-loss Michigan and a one-loss Bama.  Neither team would likely have a marquee win (LSU and OSU are good but not great IMHO).  If the committee was tasked with picking the four best teams, it would probably be Clemson, Notre Dame, Georgia (assuming they win out of course) and Bama (in that order).  Why?  Because I think on a neutral field, Bama would probably beat Michigan (it'd probably be closer than a lot of people think, but the Tide would certainly be favored).

Now, for argument's sake, let's say that UGA completely runs Bama off the field in the SEC Championship Game to the tune of 52-17 (Cincy would love that, even though there's like a 0.5% chance of that happening).  If Michigan wins out, the committee would almost certainly put UM in over Bama.  As Ohio State proved last year, it's one thing to lose respectably (like they did to OU), but it's a whole different animal to lose ugly.  The later in the season it is, the worse it gets as it's fresher on the committee's mind.

 

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