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OrangeAfroMan

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Post 1989 Drafts
« on: January 26, 2021, 09:54:50 PM »
We all know the 1989 Draft was special, because it yielded 4 HOFers in the first 5 picks.  But look what happened the next 5 years:
1990
1 - IND Jeff George, QB, Illinois
2 - NYJ Blair Thomas, RB, Penn St
3 - SEA Cortez Kennedy, DT, Miami
4 - TB  Keith McCants, LB, Alabama
5 - SD  Junior Seau, LB, USC
*still solid here, some big misses, but still, 2 HOFers in the top 5 and 5 HOFers overall (like in '89)
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1991
1 - DAL Russell Maryland, DT, Miami
2 - CLE Eric Turner, S, UCLA
3 - ATL Bruce Pickens, CB, Nebraska
4 - DEN Mike Croel, LB, Nebraska
5 - LAR Todd Lyght, CB, Notre Dame
*no HOFers here.....some Pro Bowl players, but two big Husker whiffs.  With a top-5 pick, you want more than 1 good year.
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1992
1 - IND Steve Emtman, DT, Washington
2 - IND Quentin Coryatt, LB, Texas A&M
3 - LAR Sean Gilbert, DT, Pitt
4 - WAS Desmond Howard, WR, Michigan
5 - GB  Terrell Buckley, CB, Florida St
*the draft with ZERO HOFers....a team with the top 2 picks, missing on both....U-G-L-Y.  I will say Coryatt's football cards were sweet, though.
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1993
1 - NE  Drew Bledsoe, QB, Washington St
2 - SEA Rick Mirer, QB, Notre Dame
3 - PHX Garrison Hearst, RB, Georgia
4 - NYJ Marvin Jones, LB, Florida St
5 - CIN John Copeland, DE, Alabama
*only Bledsoe shines here....Seattle thought an option QB was a good plan, and the others were good/not great
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1994
1 - CIN Dan Wilkinson, DT, Ohio St
2 - IND Marshall Faulk, RB, San Diego St
3 - WAS Heath Shuler, QB, Tennessee
4 - NE  Willie McGinest, LB, USC
5 - IND Trev Alberts, LB, Nebraska
*Faulk was a hit and McGinest was good for a long time....the rest were uneventful
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For me, 1994 was the first time the #1 pick was a 'potential' guy or a 'project.'  I didn't understand it.  How could I guy I never heard of be the #1 pick?!? 
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Anyway, from that 80% shot at a HOFer in 1989 to averaging out at about 1 per year in the next 5 seasons, teams certainly didn't know what they were doing in the draft back then. 
Good thing they've all wised up nowadays. 
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Re: Post 1989 Drafts
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2021, 10:12:10 PM »
1991
1 - DAL Russell Maryland, DT, Miami
2 - CLE Eric Turner, S, UCLA
3 - ATL Bruce Pickens, CB, Nebraska
4 - DEN Mike Croel, LB, Nebraska
5 - LAR Todd Lyght, CB, Notre Dame
*no HOFers here.....some Pro Bowl players, but two big Husker whiffs.  With a top-5 pick, you want more than 1 good year.
Some fans thought Croel was better than a whiff
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Re: Post 1989 Drafts
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2021, 10:12:25 PM »
all I can think about is what happens if the Packers draft Barry Sanders in ‘89 and then still trade for Favre in ‘92 and Sterling Sharpe never gets hurt in ‘94. 

Would have been some of the greatest offenses in NFL history from like ‘94-98.

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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2021, 10:28:11 PM »
thank goodness it didn't happen
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Re: Post 1989 Drafts
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2021, 10:30:11 PM »
ultimate draft what if has to be Giants not taking Reggie White at #3 in the ‘84 supplemental draft. 

Lawerence Taylor and Reggie White together would’ve absolutely destroyed the NFL. The NFL would’ve had to make rule changes- no team would’ve been able to block that. Jesus Christ that would’ve been fun to watch.

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2021, 10:51:32 PM »
I remember laughing arse off when Glanville picked Pickens.   He must've run some blazing 40 as he was not a good corner.

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Re: Post 1989 Drafts
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2021, 12:24:42 AM »
Some fans thought Croel was better than a whiff
Pretty sweet he got brought up twice in one day.

Not sure why he faded after his amazing rookie season.  Not that those Broncos defenses had anyone else to scheme around



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Re: Post 1989 Drafts
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2021, 12:34:40 AM »
That's always interested me - when insiders know better than a pro team.  There are a couple of famous examples, one of which I get mixed up:
Ken and George Brett.  George Brett (HOF) would tell you his brother was better than him, but due to injuries I guess, Ken Brett didn't have the career George did.
The one I get mixed up is Yogi Berra and his friend (I want to say they were from St. Louis) - they'd both tell you the friend was the better player, but Berra winds up with the WS rings and the HOF career (or the other way around, idk).
So maybe teams do know something, but still. 

Fanatics of college teams know these players as good as anyone - and better than the NFL GM who gets a blurb...better than the national announcer who preps for 2 days before the game and needs a numeric roster in front of him.

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Re: Post 1989 Drafts
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2021, 12:41:38 AM »
Some fans thought Croel was better than a whiff
If his career is what you expect from the 4th pick in the draft, more power to you.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2021, 12:56:40 AM »
I will readily admit to being dead wrong about Correll Buckhalter.  Never in a million years would I have pictured him having an NFL career.   He wasn't elite at all in NFL,  but 10 years on rosters w some production w 2 major knee surgeries! 650 carries. I thought he was a total zero in college.   The other high pick I did not understand from long ago was Akili Smith.   What moment in college did he scream top 5?   I get teams stretch these days for qb,  see Rosen, Hack, Trubisky etc.

My brother once said, hard-core college fans can draft round 1 as well as NFL gms.   I think there's some truth to it.

I won some bets w Packers fans who doubted Jordy Nelson and also loved  Darren Sproles.

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2021, 03:30:53 AM »
Smith makes me think of Couch.  Sure, Cleveland was a dumpster fire, but I had 100% confidence Couch wasn't going to be good at all.  Honestly, 85% of his passes traveled under 8 yards downfield when at Kentucky.  He'd pile up gaudy stats, but it was tiny Craig Yeast & Co. turning drags and slants into 40-yard gains.  
I honestly was dumbfounded that he was a top draft pick.....I didn't understand how anyone could comment on his downfield passing, because he barely did it!
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Re: Post 1989 Drafts
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2021, 03:53:24 AM »
That's always interested me - when insiders know better than a pro team.  There are a couple of famous examples, one of which I get mixed up:
Ken and George Brett.  George Brett (HOF) would tell you his brother was better than him, but due to injuries I guess, Ken Brett didn't have the career George did.
The one I get mixed up is Yogi Berra and his friend (I want to say they were from St. Louis) - they'd both tell you the friend was the better player, but Berra winds up with the WS rings and the HOF career (or the other way around, idk).
So maybe teams do know something, but still. 

Fanatics of college teams know these players as good as anyone - and better than the NFL GM who gets a blurb...better than the national announcer who preps for 2 days before the game and needs a numeric roster in front of him.
Which is why I think Urban is going to crush it in Jax. 

He’s scouted and recruited a lot of the guys coming out the next couple drafts when they were in high school, he’s coached some of them at OSU, he’s coached against a lot of them when he was at OSU, and he’s spent the last 2 seasons being a paid college football analyst where he’s been paid by Fox Sports to do nothing but cover and watch all the college football games and study coaches film and do breakdowns for the last 2 years. 

His eye for talent has always been great. He’s going to absolutely crush the nfl draft methinks.

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Re: Post 1989 Drafts
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2021, 07:16:25 AM »
all I can think about is what happens if the Packers draft Barry Sanders in ‘89 and then still trade for Favre in ‘92 and Sterling Sharpe never gets hurt in ‘94.
ultimate draft what if has to be Giants not taking Reggie White at #3 in the ‘84 supplemental draft.

Lawerence Taylor and Reggie White together would’ve absolutely destroyed the NFL. The NFL would’ve had to make rule changes- no team would’ve been able to block that. Jesus Christ that would’ve been fun to watch.
Ya well what if Ernie Davis never died and played in the same backfield with Jim Brown - whose records he broke in college.And what if some asshole named Model who didn't know shit about football didn't buy the BROWNS or go and fire both Paul Brown and Bill Belichick(think about that).And if Bill pulled the rabbits out of the hat in Cleveland -where real fans reside - instead of NE  - the possibilities.Man it's gonna be a long off season

teams certainly didn't know what they were doing in the draft back then. Good thing they've all wised up nowadays. 
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Re: Post 1989 Drafts
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2021, 07:54:07 AM »
all I can think about is what happens if the Packers draft Barry Sanders in ‘89 
They'd stick a FB in front of him and while he'd remain productive, he wouldn't be so worshipped now.  He'd either have to hit the hole, every play, or risk playing time.
Unpopular take, I know, but they'd have tried their darnedest to coach the jitterbug out of him - his most special attribute.
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