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Topic: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?

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Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« on: October 16, 2017, 12:09:57 PM »
With all these losses thinning out thee ranks of undefeated teams, things are getting a lot clearer in the playoff race.  There are eight total teams.  South Florida and Central Florida play each other, aren't in the Power 5, and have almost nothing of OOC strength of schedule, so I'm throwing them out.

That leaves:
Alabama
Georgia
Wisconsin
Penn State
TCU
Miami U.

All of these teams have a clear path to the playoffs - win out and they are in.  Because Alabama/UGA and PSU/Wiscy would have to cross paths, only 4 teams can actually end up undefeated.

Of course, it is unlikely we end up with 4 undefeated teams.  Wazzu and WSU losing made a clearer path for one loss teams to make the playoffs.  For example, if OSU won out, they would still probably be behind the undefeated teams and a 1 loss Oklahoma team.  But they are probably ahead of a 1 loss Pac 12 champion.

So, IMO, the standings are looking roughly like this.

1. SEC champ (undefeated Bama is a clear #1, undefeated Georgia might be behind an undefeated PSU)
2. B1G champ (An undefeated champ not jumping Bama, but may rise to 1 is Bama loses. UM, OSU, MSU all in range)
3. ACC champ (Potentially an undefeated Miami.  More likely a 1 loss Clemson or NC State)
4. B12 Champ (TCU is undefeated, Oklahoma and Okie State with 1 loss)

- Notre Dame is a potential wild card here.  If they win out against a schedule that includes USC, Stanford, and Miami, they'll have a strong argument.  If the beat Miami and Miami wins the ACC, they are probably ahead of them.  
- Pac 12 in a tough situation, but not out of it.  They are probably last out of the conferences, but there is every possibility that 2 loss teams could win a conference, which would put a 1 loss Pac 12 champ right in the mix.  USC probably the favorite based on name brand recognition.  If they beat ND and win the conference people would probably talk about them like last year, where they ended up on a hot streak.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2017, 12:42:58 PM »
I truly hope a Big XII team is in, then loses in their unnecessary championship game and it keeps the conference out.

I hate all CCGs, but theirs is a new level of nonsensical

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2017, 12:52:13 PM »
Notre Dame also plays ranked NCSU, which gets forgotten in all of this stuff.

UGA at 13-0 would have a better SoS than Alabama at 13-0.  For one thing, they would have beaten Alabama.  For another, Notre Dame and Georgia Tech are tougher than FSU.  Both play Auburn away.  

Clemson plays at NCSU.  NCSU has a pretty solid team.  So does Clemson, depending on QB situation.

Ohio State seems to be coming alive on offense.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2017, 01:23:32 PM »
UW has no chance. Not with the SOS they are carrying around. 
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2017, 01:26:39 PM »
Badgers have a chance to win out

that will be plenty
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2017, 02:15:50 PM »
Any 13-0 or 12-1 conference champion is likely in the Dance obviously.  B1G teams all play 9 conference games which is better than 8.  I think the Pac may be left out because of parity (and/or mediocrity).  The B12 could similarly beat up on each other and get left out.

We just had an "Upset Weekend", and could easily have another.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2017, 02:17:17 PM »
I simply hope the committee has to make a choice and not just pick the 4 teams with the fewest losses
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2017, 02:22:05 PM »
Badgers have a chance to win out

that will be plenty
But they won't. They are their own worst enemy right now. 500 yards of offense led to 17 points. 

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2017, 02:30:18 PM »
crazy game

the ISU cyclones had less than 350 yards and put 45 points on the Jay birds
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2017, 02:33:03 PM »
Badgers have a chance to win out

that will be plenty
+1
There can be no more than four undefeated P5 teams and if the Badgers get there, they are in.  That said:
But they won't. They are their own worst enemy right now. 500 yards of offense led to 17 points. 

Badge clearly has a point here.  They also kept Northwestern in the game with a lost fumble and two picks.  

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2017, 03:13:15 PM »
I simply hope the committee has to make a choice and not just pick the 4 teams with the fewest losses
They will make a choice, to pick the four conference champions with the fewest losses.
They occasionally will choose an at large, but that will be rare.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2017, 03:49:14 PM »
I simply hope the committee has to make a choice and not just pick the 4 teams with the fewest losses

this, drives me nuts. I hate the whole "well, they are a conference champion deal."

Last year if you believed Washington was one of the 4 best teams in the country, then I'm fine with that, but the schedule was very weak for a Power 5 school. And I hate to say it, but the 2017 Badgers schedule is similarily very weak. The same with 2017 Washington this year, and some other contenders as well. Penn States OOC blows, but they get the advantage of playing in the East with highly ranked teams and then a game vs Wiscy in Indy.

promoting the fewest losses just means you shouldn't schedule anyone with a pulse which is bad for college football.

I was glad to see Ohio State get in for obvious reasons, but the Buckeyes had 3 top 10 wins and a top 10 loss last year, the schedule was extremely tough.

It's why I wouldn't mind seeing someone get in with a 2 losses at some point. If you are power 5 team, say Penn St and you went out and played Oklahoma, Va Tech and Cal for instance. You go 2-1 against that, then 8-1 in the BIG and win the BIG title game then I still think that's deserving of getting in vs a team that played nobody, went 3-0 or 4-0 vs cupcakes played in the weaker division in their conference and had zero or 1 losses.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2017, 03:57:21 PM »
Here are a few teams you might have over looked who "control their own destiny":

Virginia
NCSU (aforementioned)
Georgia Tech (only if Miami loses twice)

WVU
Texas (sort of if OU loses twice)

Arizona State and Arizona

Kentucky
Auburn - LSU - Texas A&M - sort of, well if Auburn upended Alabama and won out they'd be in, unless LSU also wins out.

What this really means is how little conference play has concluded at this point.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2017, 08:18:04 PM »

Texas (sort of if OU loses twice)

if OU loses once and the Horns get a rematch in the CCG
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