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Topic: Penn State 2023 Season Thread

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2023, 09:51:05 AM »
One path is to create more "rocks for jocks" courses, UGA had a geology class that was called that.  The prof was a big football fan ...

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« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2023, 09:57:05 AM »
One path is to create more "rocks for jocks" courses, UGA had a geology class that was called that.  The prof was a big football fan ...
good for UGA for doing that. they should be doing stuff to make it easier on the football players.

Cardale at OSU was right on the money- can we PLEASE all stop pretending like they are there to play school, bc they ain't. They are there to play football to generate millions of dollars for the individual schools in ticket sales & merchandising & donations and billions of dollars in tv money for the conferences to distribute to member schools. If they weren't elite football players they would have never gotten into their respective school in the first place.

Charles Woodson, Mario Manningham, Braylon Edwards, David Terrell, Jabrill Peppers, Rashan Gary - none of these dudes getting admitted into freaking Michigan ever if they were lacrosse players and not bad ass football players. 

Let's just stop with all the pretension and holier art thou attitudes.

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2023, 09:59:58 AM »
I think nearly everyone does that in some sense.  UNC got caught at it, basically, and then slid away from it.

When I was at UGA, it got passed around pretty quick which courses the football players were taking.  And why.

The good news is on occasion a player from a poor background takes advantage and does well and gets his degree.  Some of those could barely read when admitted.


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« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2023, 10:05:06 AM »
I'm all for stopping with that

but, encouraging and emphasizing the value and importance of education and academics seems like a good thing.
Doesn't seem to be too much to ask of the coaching staff to hold players to a decent standard in the classroom.

It shouldn't be too much to ask of the players either.  

Git your ass into the "rocks for jocks" course on time every session and turn in your work, take the quiz.  Do the right thing.

Same as learning the playbook and showing up for football meetings on time.
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« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2023, 10:11:46 AM »
Charles Woodson, Mario Manningham, Braylon Edwards, David Terrell, Jabrill Peppers, Rashan Gary - none of these dudes getting admitted into freaking Michigan ever if they were lacrosse players and not bad ass football players.

Let's just stop with all the pretension and holier art thou attitudes.
Woodson might have
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« Reply #75 on: August 26, 2023, 10:13:58 AM »
but, encouraging and emphasizing the value and importance of education and academics seems like a good thing.
Doesn't seem to be too much to ask of the coaching staff to hold players to a decent standard in the classroom.
Correct they're a twisted knee from having to work for a living.Get a Phys. Ed. degree and coach JR/SR high School Ball
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« Reply #76 on: August 26, 2023, 10:14:32 AM »
I'm all for stopping with that

but, encouraging and emphasizing the value and importance of education and academics seems like a good thing.
Doesn't seem to be too much to ask of the coaching staff to hold players to a decent standard in the classroom.

It shouldn't be too much to ask of the players either. 

Git your ass into the "rocks for jocks" course on time every session and turn in your work, take the quiz.  Do the right thing.

Same as learning the playbook and showing up for football meetings on time.
Idk. Part of me is like, well the amount of time and work these players have to commit to football....is insane. And a lot of those "voluntary" work out/film room/study sessions....ain't actually voluntary. it takes complete dedication and obsession to the craft to be a great football player. doesn't just happen.

the best players on the best teams....they are spending way more than 40 hours a week crafting/honing their skills at football....

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« Reply #77 on: August 26, 2023, 10:18:23 AM »
NCAA is on it's way out and on the verge of death.
How are they financed? From the Conferences? Drain of financial resources TBH


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« Reply #78 on: August 26, 2023, 10:20:45 AM »
they can somehow manage to give 12/hrs a week to school
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« Reply #79 on: August 26, 2023, 11:21:17 AM »
Presuming some of these players are functionally illiterate, if they can get to near literate in three years that is probably better than not.  Just learn to read, and maybe speak a bit better, and do some simple math.  We're talking 3rd grade.  Our K-12 is so awful in many cases ....  as discussed separately it may be our most pressing and dire national issue.

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« Reply #80 on: August 26, 2023, 11:52:02 AM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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« Reply #81 on: August 26, 2023, 11:53:11 AM »
On December 19, 2022, Jones signed with the Massachusetts Pirates of the Indoor Football League (IFL).
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« Reply #82 on: August 26, 2023, 11:57:06 AM »
Ironically, and to his credit, he ended up with a degree from OSU, with honors.
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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #83 on: August 27, 2023, 10:12:23 PM »

edit: and also....the DUMBEST thing in football I ever hear is...."oh yeah well if you take away that 70 yard run and that 40 yard and that 30 yard run and that 50 yard pass in the game then um yeah well they didn't do anything" Uh...OK.
Disagree.  Ohio State tried to run the entire game, against a defense that had been suspect against the run all season.  OSU had 3 running plays that went over 5 yards.  41, 9, and 7.  3 successful runs in 25 attempts.

Compare that to Michigan's success a few weeks earlier and it should be pretty obvious why Michigan's rushing attack scares me.
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