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Topic: Penn State 2023 Season Thread

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2023, 06:03:02 PM »
OSU’s 3 longest runs:  41 yards, 9 yards, 7 yards.  Other than those 3 runs, they pretty much went nowhere.
Well that’s how it usually works.  

Donovan Edwards went nowhere against Ohio State.  He had 20 carries for 56 yards for 2.8 per carry. Except he had 2 runs for 160 yards late in the game.  But other than that he went nowhere.  

as I recall PSU had UM’s run game bottled up for the first half as well. 


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cfom46D-McU

If you give up runs like this when game is on the line- doesn’t much matter if you held it in check prior to that.  

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« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2023, 08:45:42 PM »
Well that’s how it usually works. 

Donovan Edwards went nowhere against Ohio State.  He had 20 carries for 56 yards for 2.8 per carry. Except he had 2 runs for 160 yards late in the game.  But other than that he went nowhere. 

as I recall PSU had UM’s run game bottled up for the first half as well.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cfom46D-McU

If you give up runs like this when game is on the line- doesn’t much matter if you held it in check prior to that. 


Here's the bottom line.  OSU had some success, but their run game didn't scare me.  Michigan's run game?  That scares me.

And, no, PSU didn't bottle up Michigan's run game at any point.  Harbaugh was doing Harbaugh things and kept calling pass plays on critical downs in the first half, which kept it close.  In the second half UM committed to the run and PSU couldn't stop them.

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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2023, 08:48:36 PM »
How does PSU select captains?
Something about voting.  And I have no idea if it is the players votes or the coaches.  

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« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2023, 09:26:05 PM »
Here's the bottom line.  OSU had some success, but their run game didn't scare me.  Michigan's run game?  That scares me.

And, no, PSU didn't bottle up Michigan's run game at any point.  Harbaugh was doing Harbaugh things and kept calling pass plays on critical downs in the first half, which kept it close.  In the second half UM committed to the run and PSU couldn't stop them.
Well I don’t blame you. Their run game didn’t scare anyone lol.  Especially in the second half of the season, without their 1st, 2nd,3rd and 4th string RBs playing. 

we will see if all of them can stay healthy.  
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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2023, 11:05:14 PM »
OSUs #5 RB would start at 10 other Big Ten schools.  I'm more.concerned about the Buckeyes interior line.  They looked disinterested in run blocking

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2023, 11:06:36 PM »
OSUs #5 RB would start at 10 other Big Ten schools.  I'm more.concerned about the Buckeyes interior line.  They looked disinterested in run blocking
Last season?  Or this spring?
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« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2023, 11:16:03 PM »
A few revisions now that the preseason is over and game prep has begun.

Wide Receivers (-):  By far the weakest point on the team.  Cephus is still learning the playbook but has not been the ace receiver PSU fans were hoping for.  In fact, there will be many formations with only 2 wide receivers on the field.  No real superstars, but Tre Wallace and KeAndre Lambert-Smith have separated themselves.

Tight Ends (+):  Despite the fact that Brenton Strange was drafted number 61 overall, this room is very talented and deep, and will be better than last year.  Expect to see lots of 2 TE sets, as Theo Johnson is probably Penn State's best receiver, and they need to get their best players on the field.  Watch out for Tyler Warren and Khalil Dinkins.

Defensive Tackle (+):  With the loss of PJ Mustipher, it was expected that this unit would take a step back.  However, this unit is much improved and very deep, and should actually be improved over last year.

Middle Linebacker (+):  Kobe King (Kalen's brother) has secured the starting position over Tyler Elsdon.  Apparently both have gotten better, but King has really looked strong.

Cornerback (+): Johnny Dixon has been very good.  He was excellent last year, but people expect him to be even better.

Quarterback (+):  Practice reports about Drew Allar have been very good.  The most common phrase used is "lives up to the hype."  I am cautiously optimistic.

Expect to see a lot of 2 RB formations and 2 TE formations this year from Penn State.

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2023, 11:20:46 PM »
A few revisions now that the preseason is over and game prep has begun.

Wide Receivers (-):  By far the weakest point on the team.  Cephus is still learning the playbook but has not been the ace receiver PSU fans were hoping for.  In fact, there will be many formations with only 2 wide receivers on the field.  No real superstars, but Tre Wallace and KeAndre Lambert-Smith have separated themselves.

Tight Ends (+):  Despite the fact that Brenton Strange was drafted number 61 overall, this room is very talented and deep, and will be better than last year.  Expect to see lots of 2 TE sets, as Theo Johnson is probably Penn State's best receiver, and they need to get their best players on the field.  Watch out for Tyler Warren and Khalil Dinkins.

Defensive Tackle (+):  With the loss of PJ Mustipher, it was expected that this unit would take a step back.  However, this unit is much improved and very deep, and should actually be improved over last year.

Middle Linebacker (+):  Kobe King (Kalen's brother) has secured the starting position over Tyler Elsdon.  Apparently both have gotten better, but King has really looked strong.

Cornerback (+): Johnny Dixon has been very good.  He was excellent last year, but people expect him to be even better.

Quarterback (+):  Practice reports about Drew Allar have been very good.  The most common phrase used is "lives up to the hype."  I am cautiously optimistic.

Expect to see a lot of 2 RB formations and 2 TE formations this year from Penn State.

Here is some film study where 2 TEs is the new thing.  Penn State is mentioned a few times- specifically- for giving the defense fits with it.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/film-study/2023/08/140215/film-study-the-future-of-college-offenses-will-revolve-around-tight-ends-and-whether-jim-knowles-is



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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2023, 12:01:35 PM »
Here is some film study where 2 TEs is the new thing.  Penn State is mentioned a few times- specifically- for giving the defense fits with it.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/film-study/2023/08/140215/film-study-the-future-of-college-offenses-will-revolve-around-tight-ends-and-whether-jim-knowles-is




I REALLY like PSU's offensive coordinator, Mike Yurcich.

Here's some film study on PSU's use of the old school T formation:

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2023, 12:08:09 PM »
Well that’s how it usually works. 

Donovan Edwards went nowhere against Ohio State.  He had 20 carries for 56 yards for 2.8 per carry. Except he had 2 runs for 160 yards late in the game.  But other than that he went nowhere. 

as I recall PSU had UM’s run game bottled up for the first half as well.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cfom46D-McU

If you give up runs like this when game is on the line- doesn’t much matter if you held it in check prior to that. 
Edwards went nowhere the first half because Ohio State was selling out entirely to stop the run committing 9 guys in the box the entire first half and blitzing to no end and leaving their CBs on an island in man coverage- after JJ kept wrecking them for giant chunk plays they had to back off with the aggressive box #s and well, Michigan wrecked them on the ground.

If you have to sell out and commit 9 guys and run blitz to no end to stop the run....you can't truly stop the run....

And Penn State was stopping the run at no point basically that entire Michigan game....

edit: and also....the DUMBEST thing in football I ever hear is...."oh yeah well if you take away that 70 yard run and that 40 yard and that 30 yard run and that 50 yard pass in the game then um yeah well they didn't do anything" Uh...OK.

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2023, 04:15:12 PM »
I wonder if this 12 formation is going to be more widely spread in CFB, at least with teams with two very good TEs.

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2023, 04:30:09 PM »
maybe at Nebraska, but not at Wisconsin
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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2023, 04:42:26 PM »
OSUs #5 RB would start at 10 other Big Ten schools.  I'm more.concerned about the Buckeyes interior line.  They looked disinterested in run blocking
Ya this is where Booger has excelled picking up seasoned starters in the portal - and good ones,prolly bagmen involved  ;D
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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2023, 04:57:42 PM »
I wonder if this 12 formation is going to be more widely spread in CFB, at least with teams with two very good TEs.
best formation in the f'n game imo if you actually have two TEs that BOTH can actually block at a high level and are dangerous threats at receiving. not many teams do. UGA seems to have been just churning those out last few years...

 

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