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Topic: Penn State (0-5, 3-5) at #1 Ohio State (5-0, 8-0) Post Game

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #70 on: October 31, 2025, 11:19:34 AM »
The season has to count for something and it's extremely difficult since adding the 4 PAC teams to go thru the schedule unscathed(with extensive travel vs some stout squads). Or thru the S-E-C, S-E-C schedule either ;D since expansion. So I liked the old format as it was difficult to back in.

On the other hand last year tOSU was able to redeem itself in it's Play Off Run by beating 6 post season AP top 10 teams. Pretty wild taking it to #2, #3, #4, #5, #9, and #10 - that has never been done. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
The playoff games are certainly fun to watch especially as it was for us with our team winning but, IMHO, it takes a lot away from the intensity of the regular season games because losses aren't devastating anymore.  Since this started as a discussion around Purdue upsets of Ohio State, think of 2002:  Without Holy Buckeye there is no BCSNCG, no "GOTC" upset of Miami, and no NC.  If we need another "Holy Buckeye" against Purdue this year and don't get it, no big deal.  

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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2025, 11:25:59 AM »
The playoff games are certainly fun to watch especially as it was for us with our team winning but, IMHO, it takes a lot away from the intensity of the regular season games because losses aren't devastating anymore.  Since this started as a discussion around Purdue upsets of Ohio State, think of 2002:  Without Holy Buckeye there is no BCSNCG, no "GOTC" upset of Miami, and no NC.  If we need another "Holy Buckeye" against Purdue this year and don't get it, no big deal. 
I would have thought this, but now I think the playoffs make the regular season way more impactful on a per game basis. Every single game involving a top 25 team has playoff implications this weekend. In past years, most of them would be relegated to "who cares" status as the top teams were whittled down. Now, they all matter. 

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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2025, 11:36:15 AM »
I would have thought this, but now I think the playoffs make the regular season way more impactful on a per game basis. Every single game involving a top 25 team has playoff implications this weekend. In past years, most of them would be relegated to "who cares" status as the top teams were whittled down. Now, they all matter.
That is definitely the trade-off.  At the very tippy-top the individual games are MUCH less impactful because the top teams can afford a loss.  Ie, in the prior era the game this weekend and EVERY game would have been a "must win" so for #1 Ohio State, the game this weekend against PSU is MUCH less impactful than it would have been.  OTOH, as you point out, games for #21 Michigan and #23 USC this weekend are MUCH more impactful because they are both still in the hunt despite having two losses.  In the prior era they would both already be effectively eliminated.  

Where I think it is less impactful now is that I don't really think that M/USC have a plausible chance of winning four-straight playoff games anyway so while they are most definitely in the playoff race, they aren't really in the NC race.  Both of those teams are good enough to knock off a legitimate contender but I just don't think they are good enough to do it back-to-back-to-back-to-back.  

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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #73 on: October 31, 2025, 11:57:40 AM »
Yeah. Great OSU teams NEVER lose to much lesser Boilermaker teams in West Lafayette. In fact, I can't ever remember it happening. Much less multiple times in the last two decades.

There's NO WAY.
FWIW, here are Purdue's six wins over Ohio State in the four decades from 1985-2024:

October 15, 1988:
Purdue won 31-26 in Columbus.  This wasn't an upset, both teams sucked.  This was Cooper's first year and the Buckeyes finished 4-6-1 with Purdue finishing half a game worse at 4-7.  

October 28, 2000:
Purdue won 31-27 in West Lafayette.  This wasn't an upset, Purdue was the better team.  Both teams finished 8-4 but Purdue was 6-2 in the league with an OOC loss in South Bend to a very good Notre Dame team and a bowl loss to a VERY good Washington team in the Rose Bowl.  Ohio State played a crap OOC, went 5-3 in the league, and lost to a mediocre USCe in the also-ran Outback Bowl.  

November 13, 2004:
Purdue won 24-17 in West Lafayette.  This wasn't an upset, the teams were about even.  They both went undefeated OOC and 4-4 in the league.  Purdue beat Notre Dame but that was a crappy 6-6 Notre Dame team.  Purdue ended up a game worse at 7-5 vs 8-4 for the Buckeyes but that was only because Purdue got a better bowl opponent and lost while Ohio State got a weaker bowl opponent and won.  

October 17, 2009:
Purdue won 26-18 in West Lafayette.  This was very much an upset.  Purdue was a bad team that finished 5-7 and their other four wins were all over sub .500 teams.  Ohio State finished 11-2 with league and Rose Bowl Championships.  The Buckeyes' other loss was to one of Pete Carrol's USC juggernauts.  

November 12, 2011:
Purdue won 26-23 in West Lafayette.  This wasn't an upset, both teams sucked.  Purdue finished a game better at 7-6 vs Ohio State's 6-7 but that was only because Purdue drew an easier bowl opponent and won while Ohio State drew a tougher bowl opponent and lost.  This was also a very strange game that I personally attended.  Ohio State was down 20-14 late and scored what should have been the game-winning TD but they doinked the XP off the upright, went to OT, and lost.  

October 20, 2018:
Purdue won 49-20 in West Lafayette.  This was an upset and the shocking part wasn't so much that Purdue won as that they won by 29 points.  This Purdue team sucked and finished 6-7.  This Ohio State team finished 13-1 with league and Rose Bowl Championships but missed the 4-team CFP because of this loss.  

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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #74 on: October 31, 2025, 11:57:52 AM »
The playoff games are certainly fun to watch especially as it was for us with our team winning but, IMHO, it takes a lot away from the intensity of the regular season games because losses aren't devastating anymore.  Since this started as a discussion around Purdue upsets of Ohio State, think of 2002:  Without Holy Buckeye there is no BCSNCG, no "GOTC" upset of Miami, and no NC.  If we need another "Holy Buckeye" against Purdue this year and don't get it, no big deal. 
that's why I said "So I liked the old format as it was difficult to back in." komsi-komsa
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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2025, 12:01:52 PM »
I would have thought this, but now I think the playoffs make the regular season way more impactful on a per game basis. Every single game involving a top 25 team has playoff implications this weekend. In past years, most of them would be relegated to "who cares" status as the top teams were whittled down. Now, they all matter.
Only problem was under the old system Day's head would absolutely roll if he lost to M* again. After last years unimaginative repeated plunges into the center of M*s only stregth on defense - IMHO.So there's that, no real easy answers prolly depends on the season and circumstances as to what we would prefer
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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2025, 12:08:29 PM »
that's why I said "So I liked the old format as it was difficult to back in." komsi-komsa
Would have cost you a natty last season 
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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #77 on: October 31, 2025, 01:36:09 PM »
Ya but it didn't - Ruhle's extension might cost UNL one  :93:
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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #78 on: October 31, 2025, 09:58:49 PM »
ya but it won't
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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #79 on: October 31, 2025, 10:28:12 PM »
He's another Lame Game James who might keep the UNL from Dr Tom II!! j/k
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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #80 on: November 01, 2025, 02:51:48 PM »
We'll find out how vastly superior they are if it rains,got a couple of good young backs - Jackson and West but they are freshmen. Who happen to be replacing Judkins and Henderson who are busy on Sundays - good luck with that
Obvious sandbagging
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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2025, 02:55:00 PM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: Penn State (0-4, 3-4) at #1 Ohio State (4-0, 7-0) Game Week
« Reply #82 on: November 01, 2025, 02:58:10 PM »
Caleb Downs is like why I am still in. Time to sub myself out.

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Re: Penn State (0-5, 3-5) at #1 Ohio State (5-0, 8-0) Post Game
« Reply #83 on: November 01, 2025, 06:33:25 PM »
Ohio State 37, Penn State 13
Too much faith in the defenses

 

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