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Topic: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread

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CatsbyAZ

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2020, 02:38:03 PM »
Leave it to the PAC 12 to be the first to begin serious consideration for backing out of games. 

Interesting thing is TCU opens the season Vs Cal in Berkeley. If they're already posturing to play Alabama they must be suspecting Cal might, like USC, be waffling. 


https://twitter.com/MichaelWBratton/status/1260207699800850432

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2020, 03:54:04 PM »
My guess at this point is baseball starts early July with no fans, and a LOT of TV, and that model extends to football.


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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2020, 09:14:41 PM »

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2020, 09:17:58 PM »
bad news
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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2020, 10:25:22 AM »
It’s nearly impossible not to point out the amount of political coding in how differently college football’s 2020 viability is addressed by (the state of) California/PAC 12 Vs (state of) Texas/SEC. Yesterday LA County authorities decided to mandate continued non-essential business closure until the END OF JULY! Additionally, California’s statewide university system has elected to remain online and campus-closed through the fall semester. 

From Nick Rolovich’s comments when asked his hopes regarding the upcoming season: “I think, in general, if we feel it’s safe enough to play, then I’d like to play. I know that the fans are part of the experience; they’re also part of the financial model. But that’s not in my job description. We’re just trying to hopefully get some games in this fall.” 

It’s a tempered understatement, which, IMO, speaks to all of the Pac 12’s coaches fear if the SEC/B10 football season proceeds without the PAC 12 this season. There’s already a growing gap between the football on the two coasts, and I can seriously see this being the point of no return. A lost season for the PAC 12 means recruits leave the west for programs east of the Rockies. A lost season also means coaches leaving and not being replaced with P5 level staffs.

Depending on how uncertain things get, I could see PAC 12 football falling to a status closure to that of a second Mountain West rather than maintaining their competencies alongside the other four P5 conferences.

Here’s a more positive take: 


https://twitter.com/PeteFiutak/status/1260379397149855746

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2020, 10:41:39 AM »
Once they opted to stop playing in the CFP, this was probably the natural next step

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2020, 01:15:43 PM »
It’s nearly impossible not to point out the amount of political coding in how differently college football’s 2020 viability is addressed by (the state of) California/PAC 12 Vs (state of) Texas/SEC. Yesterday LA County authorities decided to mandate continued non-essential business closure until the END OF JULY! Additionally, California’s statewide university system has elected to remain online and campus-closed through the fall semester.
Both LA County's decision and the California state university system are erring to make these decisions now. 

I'll leave LA County out because that's better discussed in the Coronavirus thread.

But the smarter thing for the CA State University system would be to simply say this:

"Right now we are hopeful that conditions will allow students to return to campus this fall. This is what we are planning for, but we are also working on the contingency plans to support students in case we need to continue distance learning through the fall."

We're 3 1/2 months away from the start of the school year. We've only been dealing with COVID-19 for 2 months, and we're already starting to see areas experiment with reopening. 

If they merely waited one more month to determine whether it was safe to bring students back, they'd have TONS more real-world data to make their decision. Right now we haven't even tried reopening on a large scale and don't have a clue whether it'll work or blow up in our faces. So there's no reason to make the decision before you absolutely have to. 

Plan for both, but put off the decision. 

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2020, 01:18:22 PM »
We're technically mostly open here, but in reality, we're still mostly closed, almost entirely closed effectively.

Reopening doesn't really mean everything opens of course.

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2020, 01:28:41 PM »
We're technically mostly open here, but in reality, we're still mostly closed, almost entirely closed effectively.

Reopening doesn't really mean everything opens of course.
True. But again, too early to make the decision on campus reopening...

...unless there are certain planning or financial commitments that absolutely FORCED the decision to be made this early. 

If it's at all possible to put it off, they should have put it off for ~1-1.5 months. We should know by the end of June if reopening is successful enough that they can bring students back to campus.

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2020, 02:35:26 PM »
It's always good to delay a tough decision if making it early doesn't matter and you may get more information in time.

I sense the Pac is out of CFB this season.  The baseball experiment may be pivotal for the rest.

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2020, 02:38:50 PM »
It's always good to delay a tough decision if making it early doesn't matter and you may get more information in time.

I sense the Pac is out of CFB this season.  The baseball experiment may be pivotal for the rest.
Governor of Arizona just announced that sports [albeit without fans in the stands] can resume in the state. 

Makes you wonder how Arizona and ASU, and how the other non-CA schools like CO, UT, OR/OrSU, UW/WSU are reacting if the state of California is basically throwing their hands up?

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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2020, 03:34:32 PM »
no wonder Phil Michelson is moving out of Cali
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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2020, 03:34:51 PM »
Elon Musk is also thinking about moving
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Re: PAC 12 2020 Season Thread
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2020, 12:46:59 PM »
I could see a scenario where the two Arizona schools + Utah look into playing their OOC games outside of PAC 12 control. I would've put USC into this as well but it looks like they're already backing out of the Alabama game. It might not be a battle worth fighting, though, since obviously PAC 12 authorities dictate conference play.

Both Arizona schools are more business-savvy (in a practical sense) than the rest of the conference. Both have announced hybrid classes (mix of online, on-campus) for the Fall semester, with the decision upgrading back to fulltime classes expected sometime later this summer.

Like Florida, I can definitely see the state of Arizona looking to profit on the hesitation and caution of California. LA County's decision to remain closed for opener three months (!) was a big eye-opener earlier this week. As someone who lives in Southern California, I can tell you that a lot of us, looking down the barrel of a shut-down summer, are already talking about going where the pools, spas, sports bars, and golf courses dare open.

 

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