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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2019, 11:20:38 AM »
ISU getting better hurts Iowa quite a bit. Nebraska too, in a lesser sense.

Iowa and ISU compete for the same in-state (a small state) recruits, and both are getting pretty heavy in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois too.

I know ISU and Iowa have forced UW to move faster on in-state Wisconsin kids. They are offering two years early these days.

ISU = Satan. Screw ISU.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2019, 11:36:13 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on June 28, 2019, 11:15:46 AM
That seems kind of silly.  I don’t mean that to sound spirited but it’s the word that fits best for me.  I don’t think a home and home against ISU does anything substantial to Iowa’s program one way or another. I’m guessing the same standard applies to Pitt and, really, ND.
FWIW:  I would view a H&H with Pitt differently.  They are an instate competitor to PSU but PA is a big enough state to have two big programs.  Iowa isn't.  

I also view ND differently because their fanbase and recruiting are more national in scope and not so regional like most schools.  
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2019, 11:44:10 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on June 28, 2019, 10:25:12 AM
You wouldn’t schedule ISU under any circumstances because of Iowa?  Really?
Good Topic,I agree Iowa boat racing a cocky Buckeye Squad off of a big win does more harm than an OOC opponent in the Conference footprint.Anybody,Anytime,Anywhere, Right ?
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2019, 11:45:44 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 28, 2019, 11:20:38 AM
ISU getting better hurts Iowa quite a bit. Nebraska too, in a lesser sense.

Iowa and ISU compete for the same in-state (a small state) recruits, and both are getting pretty heavy in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois too.

I know ISU and Iowa have forced UW to move faster on in-state Wisconsin kids. They are offering two years early these days.

ISU = Satan. Screw ISU.
I guess my larger point is this.  In the grand scheme of things Ohio St and ISU playing each other once or twice is pretty insignificant.  If Ohio St needed to fill a date and ISU was available I wouldn’t worry a great deal about what little impact it might have on Iowa.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2019, 11:47:55 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on June 28, 2019, 11:36:13 AM
FWIW:  I would view a H&H with Pitt differently.  They are an instate competitor to PSU but PA is a big enough state to have two big programs.  Iowa isn't. 
I dunno,Matt Campbell says hello
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2019, 11:48:29 AM »
I think the only power conference schools that Michigan hasn't played are TCU, Texas Tech, Iowa State, LSU, and Clemson, the last two of which are ones I hope Michigan will schedule.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2019, 11:50:31 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on June 28, 2019, 11:45:44 AM
I guess my larger point is this.  In the grand scheme of things Ohio St and ISU playing each other once or twice is pretty insignificant.  If Ohio St needed to fill a date and ISU was available I wouldn’t worry a great deal about what little impact in might have on Iowa.
ISU attracting an OOC opponent like OSU to Ames would be great for ISU and ISU only. Same if they got USC or Bama or any other OOC helmet to come there. It would be a boon.

Ya think Texas or OU would ever venture into the beehive in Iowa City? Not a chance. It would hurt ISU.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2019, 11:57:29 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on June 28, 2019, 11:45:44 AM
I guess my larger point is this.  In the grand scheme of things Ohio St and ISU playing each other once or twice is pretty insignificant.  If Ohio St needed to fill a date and ISU was available I wouldn’t worry a great deal about what little impact in might have on Iowa.
I mean, if we couldn't find anybody else, maybe.  

The problem is that there is always the possibility that ISU *MIGHT* win for several reasons:
 - First, these things are usually scheduled a decade or more in advance and we have no guarantee that Ohio State will be an elite team and better than ISU in 2030.  
 - Second, upsets do happen so the Buckeyes might lose even if they are better and even if they are elite and ISU is mediocre.  Elite tOSU teams have lost badly the past two years to mediocre teams and ISU has a pretty good track record of occasionally knocking off elite opponents.  

If ISU were to knock off the Buckeyes that would help their recruiting (against Iowa) immensely.  If I were the ISU coach I would go to Iowa HS kids and say "Why be a Hawkeye and get beat up by the Ohio State's of the world when you could be a Cyclone and beat them."  

Ohio State, of course, lost to Iowa recently but that is different in part because there is a long history with Iowa.  Iowa's 2017 win over Ohio State still only gives them two wins in 17 tries in the past 27 years and just a .254 winning percentage overall.  If Ohio State lost to ISU they'd be 0-1 overall.  Even if the Buckeyes won the other half of a hypothetical H&H they would still only be .500 overall which is way worse than the .746 against Iowa.  
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2019, 12:01:50 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 28, 2019, 11:50:31 AM
ISU attracting an OOC opponent like OSU to Ames would be great for ISU and ISU only. Same if they got USC or Bama or any other OOC helmet to come there. It would be a boon.

Ya think Texas or OU would ever venture into the beehive in Iowa City? Not a chance. It would hurt ISU.
Not exactly a rebuttal to your point, but, FWIW, OU did play Iowa in Norman in 1979.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2019, 12:06:44 PM »
OU's Rose Bowl game with Georgia after the 2017 season checked a block.

OU has not played Georgia Tech, Michigan State, Mississippi State, Purdue, Rutgers, or South Carolina.

Of those, I'd be most interested in seeing us play Georgia Tech or Michigan State.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2019, 12:16:56 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 28, 2019, 12:01:50 PM
Not exactly a rebuttal to your point, but, FWIW, OU did play Iowa in Norman in 1979.
In Norman. Sure, why not? 40 years is a long time though. I was 12.


In Iowa City? Not happening, and we know why.


Unless, of course, OU joins the B1G West (with Texas).
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2019, 12:33:35 PM »
a 2 game series with ISU does little to nothing to hurt the Hawks

but, if there were to be many many games scheduled in the future there might be some significant impact

the hawks playing in Ames every other season helps ISU and therefore hurts Iowa much more than a few games vs Ohio state or Michigan or Wisconsin

is this an unspoken directive in the Big Ten office at the request of the Hawks?

Moos and Frost have talked about playing old Big 8 and Big 12 rivals in the future, oddly the Cyclones don't come up as often or at all.  The talk is about Mizzou, KSU, Kansas, Okie St, OU, and CU
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2019, 12:52:45 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 28, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
a 2 game series with ISU does little to nothing to hurt the Hawks

but, if there were to be many many games scheduled in the future there might be some significant impact

the hawks playing in Ames every other season helps ISU and therefore hurts Iowa much more than a few games vs Ohio state or Michigan or Wisconsin

is this an unspoken directive in the Big Ten office at the request of the Hawks?

Moos and Frost have talked about playing old Big 8 and Big 12 rivals in the future, oddly the Cyclones don't come up as often or at all.  The talk is about Mizzou, KSU, Kansas, Okie St, OU, and CU
I don't think there is any directive from the B1G but I just wouldn't do it if I were tOSU's (or any other B1G school's) AD.  

It makes sense that UNL would have little-or-no interest in playing ISU because they already have an annual conference game against an Iowa school.  Mizzou, the Kansas schools, the Oklahoma schools, and Colorado are all places that Nebraska no longer regularly travels to so those make more sense.  

Obviously the big one that most people would want to see is OU because of the history there and I agree.  That said, Nebraska games against Mizzou or Colorado would have an interesting B8/B12 alum now B1G, SEC, or PAC factor.  
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2019, 01:04:10 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 28, 2019, 08:55:56 AM
I think a lot of B1G teams will have a long list simply because of the old "bowl ban", same with ND.

Good call, forgot about that.

Plus for seemingly like 15+ years (at least early 90s through mid 2000s) the Big Ten played the Pac 10 in the Rose and Sun each year; and the SEC in the Citrus/Outback, plus then the Music City.  I don't think we had any ACC or Big East tie ins, and the Alamo was our only Big 12 tie in, so even once the bowl ban was lifted, there wasn't a wide degree of circulation.
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