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Topic: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10

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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2018, 08:36:11 AM »
and the only one that guarantees the top 2 teams will play in the CCG.  They’ve made it too tough, IMO.
I think this point is really interesting.  I like it in theory because I think it makes more sense than having effectively #1 vs #6.  OTOH, you make a good point.  There is almost no chance of an easy match-up in the B12CG.  
In our current Power Rankings, for example, the top three teams are from the B1G-E and #4 needs help to win the B1G-W.  If the season ended today the B1GCG would be #1 Michigan vs #6 Northwestern.  That is a real break for Michigan as opposed to the B12 format where they would definitely get stuck with a rematch against a higher ranked team.  

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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2018, 08:48:07 AM »
I like having different conferences doing different things.  Run experiments, see what works.


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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2018, 08:55:03 AM »
I cannot recall a year where a conference (SEC) was decided so early in the season (since having divisions anyway).  In the NFL, it would mean you were already in the playoff and thinking about resting folks.  In CFB of course, you need to win every game (but one, maybe).

Alabama has three games after this weekend, all at home, Miss State and Auburn and a pastry.  I suppose two of those are half decent teams, up and down, potentially dangerous, but Bama will be 2 TD favorites plus.  Alabama is a near lock to be 12-0.  UGA faces Auburn at home, UMass at home, and GaTech, also all at home.  So, they are likely to be 12-1 if they get by UK, but could lose to Auburn.

Obviously, this weekend decides the SEC, probably, barring an LSU upset, and medina's efforts will be simplified next week.

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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2018, 09:10:08 AM »
I like having different conferences doing different things.  Run experiments, see what works.
As long as those differences benefit the SEC. :-[

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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2018, 09:11:57 AM »
I really have no idea what "benefits the SEC" and don't care whether something does or not, especially as I have zero control over such things.

I'm sure we all realize that money is at the bottom of all of this.  Conferences do whatever they think will generate the most money.


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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2018, 10:28:23 AM »
If the season ended today the B1GCG would be #1 Michigan vs #6 Northwestern.  That is a real break for Michigan as opposed to the B12 format where they would definitely get stuck with a rematch against a higher ranked team.  
this could help Michigan get a win, but upsets happen
this could also hurt Michigan if they need an impressive win over a highly ranked opponent to grab the 4th spot in the playoff
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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2018, 10:29:55 AM »
  Apparently, the Big 12 ran tens of thousands of simulations and determined a 13th game would help the conference get it in a little more than without one.  So, whatever.  That’s much more scientific than my gut feeling about them I guess.
I'd be surprised if the decision was made by any type of scientific means at all
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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2018, 10:34:33 AM »
As long as those differences benefit the SEC. :-[
There is nothing to stop all of the conferences from doing exactly what the SEC is doing right now.  Is it a coincidence that the only two conferences to make every CFP so far are the two that play an 8 game schedule?  Idk.  Maybe, maybe not.
But there is no incentive to change how they schedule.  It’s working.  The other three can go to that anytime they wish and maybe they should to even the playing field a little.

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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2018, 12:30:30 PM »
I can recall when only 6 conference opponents were scheduled.  That was before the forward pass I think.

Georgia Tech was in the SEC and did not play either Mississippi team for many decades.  There also were times when nonconference opponents counted as conference games.


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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2018, 01:34:56 PM »
There is nothing to stop all of the conferences from doing exactly what the SEC is doing right now.  Is it a coincidence that the only two conferences to make every CFP so far are the two that play an 8 game schedule?  Idk.  Maybe, maybe not.
But there is no incentive to change how they schedule.  It’s working.  The other three can go to that anytime they wish and maybe they should to even the playing field a little.
Totally agree with this.  The SEC has figured out the best way to game the system.  Every other conference could do the same thing.
And I also agree with CD about liking the fact that conferences are built differently, and decide things differently.  So many college football fans seem to want to push for uniformity and end up with an NFL Lite.  No, thanks.

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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2018, 06:22:21 AM »
Its going to be crazy in Baton Rouge tonight.  I don’t understand how Alabama is favored by 14.  Love the contrast between the coaches.

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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2018, 08:03:11 AM »
Alabama is favored by 2 TDs because of Tu'a (and they are Alabama).  Watching them play is almost like watching perfection by some machine, they grind you into dust, and quickly.  They would be favored by doubt digits against any team in the country not in the NFL.

Clemson won with a great QB a couple years back, Tu'a I think is better.

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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2018, 08:47:55 AM »
lucky for Bama to be down late in the NCG last season to the Dawgs?

otherwise would Tu'a have even had a chance to start this season?
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Re: Other P5 Divisional Races headed into week 10
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2018, 08:59:22 AM »
Saban made the change at the half, so they weren't "down late".  Tu'a made some boneheaded plays earlier in the second half and one in OT.

UGA had shut them out in the first half and Saban realized he had to make a change, to his credit.  The Dawgs had a pretty good defense last year.  This year, not so much.  

 

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