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Topic: Other P5 Championship races heading into weekend of 11/13

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medinabuckeye1

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Other P5 Championship races heading into weekend of 11/13
« on: November 09, 2021, 01:24:12 PM »
ACC-Atlantic:

  • 5-0 Wake (vsNCST, @Clem, @BC)
  • 4-1 NCST (@Wake, vsCuse, vsUNC)
  • 5-2 Clemson (vsWake)

2-3 Cuse is out because they can do no better than 5-3 while the winner of Wake/Clemson can do no worse than 6-2. 

This division will be determined in Wake's next two games:
  • vsNCST this weekend
  • @Clemson next weekend. 

If Wake wins this weekend they go to the CG so long as they win at least one of their last two. 

If NCST wins this weekend they'd have the inside track since they already beat Clemson. 

Clemson probably needs Wake and NCST to lose twice each. 

ACC-Coastal:
  • 4-1 Pitt (vsUNC, vsUVA, @Cuse)
  • 4-2 UVA (@Pitt, vsVaTech)
  • 3-2 Miami (@FSU, vsVaTech, @Dook)
  • 3-3 UNC (@Pitt, vsNCST)
  • 2-3 VaTech (vsDook, @Miami, @UVA)

The Pitt/UVA winner can do no worse than 5-3 so UNC and VaTech can only possibly tie and would need all kinds of help in addition to winning out to get there.  Realistic contenders are Pitt, UVA, and maybe Miami. 
  • UVA beat Miami, hasn't played Pitt yet
  • Miami beat Pitt, lost to UVA
  • Pitt lost to Miami, hasn't played UVA yet. 

If Pitt wins out they obviously go but if not that loss to Miami could be problematic.  

Virginia controls their own destiny because with wins over Pitt and VaTech they'd finish 6-2 and no worse than tied with Pitt and/or Miami and wins over both of them. 

Miami probably has some convoluted mathematical chance and the H2H win over Pitt helps but the H2H loss to UVA hurts. 

Big12:
  • 6-0 OU (@Bay, vsISU, @OKSU)
  • 5-1 OkSU (vsTCU, @TxTech, vsOU)
  • 4-2 Baylor (vsOU, @KSU, vsTxTech)
  • 4-2 ISU (@TxTech, @OU, vsTCU)
  • 3-3 KSU (vsWVU, vsBaylor, @TX)

I just can't see KSU getting there because their three losses were to OU, OkSU, and ISU so they'd lose almost any tie. 

Oklahoma looks great at 6-0 but their last three games are against the other three contenders so it is far from locked up. 

There is a decent chance that the Sooners and Cowboys will BOTH clinch before Bedlam then play back-to-back games. 

P12-N:
  • 5-1 Oregon (vsWSU, @Utah, vsOrSU)
  • 4-2 WSU (@Ore, vsZona, @Wash)
  • 3-3 OrSU (vsStan, vsASU, @Ore)
  • 3-3 Wash (vsASU, @Colo, vsWSU)
  • 2-4 Cal (vsUSC, @Stan, @UCLA)

In theory Cal could still tie for it but that would require all kinds of unlikely help. 

A home win by the Ducks this weekend eliminates Cal, Washington, and Washington State and leaves just OrSU chasing the Ducks but even the Beavers would need to win out AND for the Ducks to lose out. 

P12-S:
  • 5-1 Utah (@Zona, vsOregon, vsColorado)
  • 4-2 ASU (@Wash, @OrSU, vsZona)
  • 3-3 UCLA (vsColo, @USC, vsCal)
  • 3-4 USC (@Cal, vsUCLA)
  • 2-4 Colo (@UCLA, vsWash, @Utah)

Utah has all but clinched since they are ahead and already have wins over ASU, UCLA, and USC. 

SEC-E:
  • 7-0 UGA has already clinched. 
SEC-W:
  • 5-1 Bama (vsArk, @Aub)
  • 4-2 aTm (@Miss, @LSU)
  • 3-2 Auburn (vsMsSt, @USCe, vsBama)
  • 3-2 Ole Miss (vsaTm, vsVandy, @MsSt)
  • 3-3 MsSt (@Aub, vsMiss)
  • 2-3 Ark (@LSU, @Bama, vsMizzou)

Ole Miss is realistically out because they already lost to both Bama and Auburn. 

Texas A&M beat BOTH Bama and Auburn so they win almost any possible tie but they need Bama to lose a game.

Auburn needs to win out and they need aTm to lose again. 


« Last Edit: November 09, 2021, 05:13:45 PM by medinabuckeye1 »

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Re: Other P5 Championship races heading into weekend of 11/13
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2021, 03:50:52 PM »
Nice work, thanks. 
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WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
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Re: Other P5 Championship races heading into weekend of 11/13
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2021, 07:20:39 PM »
The ACC desperately needs to get rid of their divisions once they change the rules permanently for the CCG.

Never been a fan of randomly splitting teams into  divisions where they have no geographical closeness and no historical rivalry.  You might as well just go without divisions.

And this nonsense where WF and UNC have to play a non-conference game just so they don't go 6 years without playing,  is just unnecessarily rigid scheduling by the ACC. 

With that said, if the. Big Ten ever went back to 8 conference games and kept their divisions., then they would have to get rid of protected cross-division rivals.  Sorry,  we are not going 6 years without playing OSU or Mich or PSU while be forced to play Rutgers every year.  But no protected rivals would mean Ind and Purdue would have to play in OOC 2 out 3 years.  But thats ultimately why the Big Ten also needs to get rid of divisions.

« Last Edit: November 09, 2021, 07:25:51 PM by LittlePig »

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Re: Other P5 Championship races heading into weekend of 11/13
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2021, 02:30:28 PM »
Sooners lost. 

Cal bowed out of the Pac North race by rescheduling a game to the day after the CCG. 
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Re: Other P5 Championship races heading into weekend of 11/13
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2021, 02:36:43 PM »
Ole Miss at 4-2 is still technically alive if Bama loses twice and Ole Miss wins twice.  Everyone else has 3 losses+.  Bama has Arky and Auburn left, not likely to lost both.

I guess Bama could lose twice and OM lose once making a multiple tie of 3 loss teams, and I think A&M would prevail if that happened, but it won't.

 

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