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Topic: OT - Weird History

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #6692 on: July 29, 2026, 06:21:40 PM »
My BIL had (maybe still has?) a Glastron Carlson. I got to tear around on the Lake of the Ozarks with him in that thing. 

It could DEFINITELY go into the Sporty Boats thread :72:

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« Reply #6693 on: July 29, 2026, 06:31:04 PM »
The Glastron factory was maybe a half mile from the house where I grew up. My parents still live there but the factory is long gone.

Glastrons were extremely common around Austin, I knew several people that owned them, and the dad of one of my friends was an engineer that worked for them for many, many years.  Glastron is absolutely a part of the fabric of old Austin.

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« Reply #6694 on: Today at 07:22:10 AM »
Glastron is affordable.
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« Reply #6695 on: Today at 08:38:08 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

USS Indianapolis Sunk by Japanese, Hundreds Die Awaiting Rescue (1945)
After delivering parts for the first atomic bomb to a US base in the Pacific, the USS Indianapolis was torpedoed by a Japanese submarine. It sank in 12 minutes. Roughly 300 sailors were killed in the initial attack, and the remaining 900 faced exposure, dehydration, and shark attacks while awaiting rescue. The US Navy only learned of the sinking four days later, when survivors were spotted by a pilot on patrol. In the end, only 316 survived.
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« Reply #6696 on: Today at 09:22:02 AM »
Glastron is affordable.
Glastron has been bought and sold numerous times over the years.  And the factory left Austin decades ago.  I have no idea who owns them these days, and not sure where they're made.  Somewhere up in yankee-land I believe, Michigan or Minnesota perhaps?

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« Reply #6697 on: Today at 09:37:59 AM »
OMC had them for a while, until they went under (that's a story in itself). Then Genmar had them. They went belly-up in 2009. Pretty sure Glastron is independent or was for a while. There are a lot of holding companies for boats.

OMC and then Genmar owned Four Winns. I had 3 of those up North.

My Pursuit brand is owned by Malibu now. They bought it from S2.
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« Reply #6698 on: Today at 09:40:17 AM »
Yeah there was a time when GenMar, Brunswick, or Bombardier owned almost everything.

Google tells me this:

Glastron is a boat manufacturing company and was one of the first manufacturers of fiberglass boats. Glastron is owned by Rec Boat Holdings, a subsidiary of Groupe Beneteau.

Mastercraft is apparently still independent.  We'll be out on the lake this weekend one final time as a family for the summer, because my daughter is all tied up with college stuff starting the next weekend.  Gonna be bittersweet.

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« Reply #6699 on: Today at 09:52:46 AM »
AMC Brunswick. Forgot about them. Took Bayliners to hell.

They messed up Harley Davidson too.

Shoulda stuck to bowling alleys.
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« Reply #6700 on: Today at 10:37:59 AM »
In 1960, physicist Eugene Wigner published an essay that has haunted science ever since. He called it "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences", a meditation on the disturbing fact that abstract mathematical structures, invented with no physical motivation whatsoever, turn out to describe the universe with uncanny precision. Nowhere is this more acute than in quantum mechanics, where the formalism works to extraordinary precision and the physical interpretation remains, after a century, genuinely contested.

The founders of quantum mechanics were not quietly confident that they understood what they had built. Bohr said anyone not shocked by quantum mechanics had not understood it. Feynman said nobody understands quantum mechanics. Schrödinger said if he had known that his equation would be taken so literally, he might never have published it. These were not false modesty. They were honest admissions from the people who wrote the equations that the equations were ahead of the understanding, that the formalism worked, magnificently, while its meaning remained opaque.

The deepest version of this puzzle is not the measurement problem, not the interpretation debates, not the philosophical skirmishes over realism and locality. It is the prior question: why does the universe obey equations at all? Why should physical reality be structured in a way that abstract mathematics, developed by human minds for human reasons, captures so precisely? Quantum mechanics is the sharpest form of this question because its mathematical structure, Hilbert spaces, operators, complex amplitudes, was not extracted from physical intuition. It was forced on physics by experiment, and the mathematics that fit was already sitting in the pure mathematics literature, waiting. The universe didn't just turn out to be mathematical. It turned out to be mathematical in the specific way that mathematicians, working in pure abstraction, had already explored. That correspondence has never been explained. It may be the most important unexplained fact in all of science.



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« Reply #6701 on: Today at 10:57:33 AM »
At the end he writes "The miracle of the appropriateness of the language of mathematics for the formulation of the laws of physics is a wonderful gift which we neither understand nor deserve."  

I first read that some years ago and it took me a little bit to understand what he was getting at.  I initially thought one could argue that math concepts were simply descriptors we invented for the physical world, so of course they apply.  I then realized he was referring to abstract complex numbers such as i, the square root of -1, for example.  I think the reason for my initial confusion is that in all the math classes I had through college, we learned concepts and equations using complex numbers, but never any application for them.  They were just problems we had to solve to pass a test.  Probably if I'd have been STEM, that would've been more clear.  

His short essay is still widely referenced today, and the topic remains a popular one for philosophers of science.  

 

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