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« Reply #756 on: July 01, 2025, 06:58:07 PM »
yeah, Jamie Foxx and Colin Farrell played the leads, directed by Michael Mann (same dude that did excellent movies like Collateral and Heat) and it was actually pretty good.
Michael Mann has a very short but good bio

Thief is very underrated, its a great movie.  Then Last of the Mohicans, Heat, The Insider, Ali, Collateral, Miami Vice, Public Enemies.  Ali is probably the worst movie he put out in a 20 year span

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« Reply #757 on: July 01, 2025, 07:00:56 PM »
A movie loses me the moment there's a 2nd realistic-looking mask reveal happens.
Fuck that. 
Then anyone could be anyone, what's the point?
MI might be the weirdest franchise ever.  The first one was so good that FX started airing the original show.  Then 2 was one of the worst action movies I've ever seen, and 3 sort of revived it.  Then from 4 on, they have been consistently great.  Not sure what the continuity is, but Marvel ruined that for everyone.  At least MI stuck to just making entertaining movie after entertaining movie.  Even James Bond got bogged down trying to put continuity into the recent films

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« Reply #758 on: July 08, 2025, 11:12:28 AM »
why do they have to rehash and reboot everything.....doesn't anyone have original ideas anymore? I'm a firm hell no on this....and knowing Disney it's probably going to be a half asian half black trans lesbian Indiana Jones...gotta pander and virtue signal. put a chick in it and make her gay!


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« Reply #759 on: July 08, 2025, 11:19:40 AM »
3 of the 5 movies are horrible already.  And the other 2 (Raiders and Last Crusade) might be 2 of my favorite movies ever made

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« Reply #760 on: July 08, 2025, 11:20:03 AM »
If they try to pull a Snow White, well, it will flop.
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« Reply #761 on: July 08, 2025, 11:26:32 AM »
3 of the 5 movies are horrible already.  And the other 2 (Raiders and Last Crusade) might be 2 of my favorite movies ever made
i feel the same, yeah the new ones were downright horrible, but man the originals from the 80s are some of the greatest movies ever made imo.

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« Reply #762 on: July 08, 2025, 11:28:16 AM »
Michael Mann has a very short but good bio

Thief is very underrated, its a great movie.  Then Last of the Mohicans, Heat, The Insider, Ali, Collateral, Miami Vice, Public Enemies.  Ali is probably the worst movie he put out in a 20 year span
man I forgot about The Insider. that was awesome too. Pacino was great in that and Russell Crowe in his prime was a god tier actor.

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« Reply #763 on: July 08, 2025, 11:30:37 AM »
I saw the new F1 movie over the weekend and really enjoyed it.  I'm a huge F1 fan anyway so I'm naturally inclined to like it, but my i s c & a aggie wife, and my 15yo and 17yo kids, also liked it, and they're not really race fans.

It's directed by Joseph Kosinski, who recently did Top Gun Maverick, and the actions sequences were similarly great.  The story, writing, and acting, are all "good enough."  It's an entertaining movie IMO and most likely plays better on the big screen than it will at home.

 

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« Reply #764 on: July 08, 2025, 11:32:09 AM »
3 of the 5 movies are horrible already.  And the other 2 (Raiders and Last Crusade) might be 2 of my favorite movies ever made
I don't think 2 was "horrible" but it certainly wasn't as good as the OG.  Last Crusade was better than 2, wrapped the story up and ended on a high note, and no others ever should have been made.
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« Reply #765 on: July 08, 2025, 11:36:43 AM »
I stopped watching the MI movies around #3 or #4, I think.  Just more of the same thing, and I didn't really feel the need to continue seeing it.

Arguably James Bond is the same thing, but I've always found Bond and the cast around him, to be more compelling characters.

That said, I haven't seen the last 2 or 3 Bond films, either.
I'm kind of the opposite on the MI movies. I thought the first one was OK and that the 2nd and 3rd ones sucked royally, but that with the 4th one on they actually got more entertaining and progressively better and the insane stunts just really blew me away especially on an IMAX screen. Tom Cruise is really doing all that insane shit- and just for our entertainment- and I respect that since everything today is CGI crap.

I wasn't the biggest Bond fan, but Daniel Craig really hit it out of the park as Bond. I think he made 5 Bond films and to me the last one was OK, the second one sucked, the fourth one was meh, but the first one and the third one were flat out incredible. Casino Royale and Skyfall were flat out just excellent movies.

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« Reply #766 on: July 08, 2025, 11:40:29 AM »
There's only so many MI-style car chases or plane drops or whatever, that I can watch.  At first they're fun, and then they get repetitive, and then they get boring.

Same thing is true of any of those action franchises, it's not specific to MI.  

I like and respect Tom Cruise as an entertainer, I don't give a rat's ass about anything in his personal life, and I'm glad he's out there doing things that people continue to enjoy.  I just don't care to see any more of it on the MI franchise.  Or Bond.  Or Bourne.  Or whatever else.

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« Reply #767 on: July 08, 2025, 11:41:25 AM »
We finally saw Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning in the theater this past weekend.  Overall I liked it.  There were numerous callbacks to previous movies throughout the franchise, and it pretty well stayed on-brand for what the franchise settled into starting with the 4th installation, or maybe the 3rd, depending on your opinion. 

Although I never found those movies particularly memorable, I always enjoyed watching them and I was never sorry I spent my time on it.  This one is no different.  It's Tom Cruise doing a bunch of crazy action stunts in crazy situations in crazy-beautiful locations. 

I've seen quite a few criticisms levied at the film and its predecessor Dead Reckoning, which this new movie completes, but I found I didn't agree with most of them.  Some thought the villain being an AI entity was off-brand and didn't work as well the typical Bond-super-villain type, but I thought the idea worked well.  Some thought the plot was goofy, but I thought it was no more or less goofy than any of the other movies.  Some thought it had too much exposition, but I didn't feel the same. 

My criticisms, if I had to find some, were that it lagged a bit in the middle and probably some of the film could've been edited down.  And it seemed too contrived at times the way they tried to incorporate plot points from previous movies into this one when the earlier movies clearly never had any intention of leading anywhere.  But I can easily forgive that because it was done as fan-service and because it was the last movie of the franchise, and that's the kind of thing you do in those situations. 

Anyway, whether you catch it in theaters while it's still there, or consider renting on streaming services when it's available, I'd say if you liked the other installments, you'll like this one too. 

I saw the first MI movie in the summer before my senior year of high school.  Crazy. 
pretty much agree with all this. it was a great summer action flick to see in IMAX at a theater. And the sequence with Tom Cruise hanging on the biplane and the diving sequence- that's some of the very best action sequences ever filmed for movies.  

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« Reply #768 on: July 08, 2025, 11:47:42 AM »
There's only so many MI-style car chases or plane drops or whatever, that I can watch.  At first they're fun, and then they get repetitive, and then they get boring.

Same thing is true of any of those action franchises, it's not specific to MI. 

I like and respect Tom Cruise as an entertainer, I don't give a rat's ass about anything in his personal life, and I'm glad he's out there doing things that people continue to enjoy.  I just don't care to see any more of it on the MI franchise.  Or Bond.  Or Bourne.  Or whatever else.
hey as long as the stunts are real and not CGI- I'll watch 'em. And the guy ups the ante with the stunts each time, they just get bigger and more dangerous so I respect that lol.

I agree with you on Bourne. I think that is done and should be imo, Matt Damon made them his own and they wrapped it up nicely. I don't want to see anyone else do it- and I don't want to see a 60 year old Matt Damon as a super spy.

Bond of course is continuing, they've just announced the hiring of the Dune director to make the new one. Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever top Daniel Craig but hey Jeff Bezos gotta make more money now that he owns Bond/MGM and just spent $50 million on a wedding.

This was the last MI and should be imo. TC been doing that gig for 30 years now, and 8 films is f'ing A LOT.

Totally with you on not giving a rats ass about his personal life- but that goes with every celebrity. I don't get why people are so obsessed- just enjoy the art/entertainment they create and keep it moving.

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« Reply #769 on: July 08, 2025, 12:30:34 PM »
I don't think 2 was "horrible" but it certainly wasn't as good as the OG.  Last Crusade was better than 2, wrapped the story up and ended on a high note, and no others ever should have been made.
That's where I was in the 90s. I watched them again with my kids and 2 was a little better than I remembered it, still not as good as 3, and 3 was worse than I remembered it. Raiders of the Lost Arc is a great movie (even if the main characters' impact on the story line is questionable). The next two movies were "fine" sequels. Definitely should have stopped. The more recent ones were bad movies. I guess the last one was a little better than the Crystal Skull, but not enough for me to be glad I paid to see it in a theater.

 

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