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Topic: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends

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ELA

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OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« on: July 12, 2019, 03:14:29 PM »

50s & 60s
#1 The Beatles (White Album)
#6 Let It Bleed
#7 Led Zeppelin
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70s
#2 Exile on Main Street
#5 Dark Side of the Moon
#6 Born to Run
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80s
#1 Thriller
#3 London Calling
#5 Appetite for Destruction
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90s to today
#1 Nevermind
#5 (What's the Story) Morning Glory
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 03:19:34 PM »
I like Achtung Baby a lot more now, decades later, than I did when it came out.  I wanted more War/Boy/October or even Joshua Tree, and Achtung Baby was just such a departure.  But now, I really really enjoy it.

I never got into Radiohead, so U2 is an easy choice for me.

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 03:21:27 PM »
Radiohead reminds me of the Harvard kid that Matt Damon undressed in Good Will Hunting; but I'll vote for just about anything head to head against U2.

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 03:24:00 PM »
Radiohead is definitely very, very douchey.  I didn't actively dislike their music, but I did get really worn out by their fanbois who just had to insist they were The Greatest EVAR!!!

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2019, 03:30:22 PM »
Radiohead was also at the heart of a much better episode of South Park than the one making fun of Bono

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2019, 03:58:03 PM »
I can't stand U2. Radiohead big 3 Bends/OK Comp/ Kid A are all fantastic. Easy call

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2019, 03:59:25 PM »
Lotta vitriol towards U2 here, and I can't figure out why. 

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2019, 04:07:27 PM »
Lotta vitriol towards U2 here, and I can't figure out why.

Bore me to tears and I've never heard an interesting song from them. The fact that U2 managed to find their way into this and as a 2 seed is mind boggling to me.

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2019, 04:17:10 PM »
So far my 90's and on fears have come through. Three albums from the 90's. The Bends the best of them altho a album that I think is not as good as OK Computer or Kid A and I'm really surprised to know it was ranked above either on any publication. Then the forth one was Adele? I don't mind her but I don't think she falls under "Rock" in any sense. The 00's and on is gonna get the short end of this.

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2019, 06:40:31 PM »
I can't stand U2. Radiohead big 3 Bends/OK Comp/ Kid A are all fantastic. Easy call
Good god, no.  U2 is a top 10 all-time band.  Radiohead is for douchenozzles.

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2019, 06:41:30 PM »
Lotta vitriol towards U2 here, and I can't figure out why.
I think it's largely because msufan's taste in music really, really blows.

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2019, 06:47:29 PM »
Good god, no.  U2 is a top 10 all-time band.  Radiohead is for douchenozzles.
U2 top ten band?  Lord no.  I can't think of a band less deserving of their success.  At least the Doors are slightly explainable based on Morrison's early death.  Bono wasn't so kind to us.

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2019, 06:51:22 PM »
But I do think msufan introduces an interesting point about 2000s and beyond albums getting a bit lost in the shuffle, and I can speculate on a couple of reasons for this.

1) 2000s+ albums are simplynot as old, and therefore haven't withstood the test of time for as long.  We have a great perspective on albums from the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and at least some perspective on albums from the 90s.  Albums in the 2000s just haven't been around as along, and albums from the 2010s aren't even a decade old so it's pretty difficult to get a real feel for what's truly great, and what was just a bit of a pop fad.

2) The album format started dying off in the 2000s with the advent of internet-based distribution of music.  We've actually returned a lot closer to the old single release model, which dominated the 40s and 50s.  There's a reason 40s and 50s albums don't make these lists, and it's because the album format wasn't all that strong, rather it was the single release that ruled the day.  Back then it was radio airplay that drove it, and these days it's more related to internet-based distribution, but either way, people don't listen to entire albums nearly as often now, as they did when the LP/cassette/CD was the premier format for release, in the 60s,70s,80s, and most of the 90s.


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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - #2 Achtung Baby vs. #7 The Bends
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 06:52:36 PM »
U2 top ten band?  Lord no.  I can't think of a band less deserving of their success.  At least the Doors are slightly explainable based on Morrison's early death.  Bono wasn't so kind to us.
Uhh... yeah... no.  Wrong again bubble boy.  The only explanation for the Doors' relatively limited success is the mystery of Jim Morrison's death.  Otherwise their music was terrible.

Or maybe it's because everyone was just really, REALLY stoned out of their minds for about a decade.  I guess that could explain it, too.  Stoned people make terrible decisions.

 

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