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Topic: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994

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ELA

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OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« on: July 19, 2020, 02:41:32 PM »

19931994
Florida StateNATIONAL CHAMPIONNebraska
ORANGE: #1 Florida State 18, #2 Nebraska 16"NATIONAL TITLE GAME"ORANGE: #1 Nebraska 24, #3 Miami 17
Wisconsin/Ohio StateBIG TEN CHAMPIONPenn State
#9 Wisconsin 21, #14 UCLA 14ROSE BOWL#2 Penn State 38, #12 Oregon 20
Charlie WardHEISMAN WINNERRashaan Salaam

#1 PROGRESSION
1993
  • Preseason: Florida State
  • November 13: #2 Notre Dame 31, #1 Florida State 24 (#2 Notre Dame jumped to #1)
  • November 20: #17 Boston College 41, #1 Notre Dame 39 (#2 Florida State jumped to #1)
1994
  • Preseason: Florida
  • September 3: #1 Florida 70, New Mexico State 21 (#2 Nebraska jumped to #1)
  • September 10: #2 Florida 73, Kentucky 7 (#2 Florida jumped to #1)
  • October 15: #6 Auburn 36, #1 Florida 33 (#3 Penn State jumped to #1)
  • October 29: #3 Nebraska 24, #2 Colorado 7 (#3 Nebraska jumped to #1)

OTHER NOTES
1993
  • Penn State joined the Big Ten
  • Cal State Fullerton dropped football
  • Don James resigned as head coach of Washington 2 weeks prior to the season
  • Matchup of #1 Florida State and #2 Notre Dame was the first ever on campus edition of ESPN College Gameday
  • Charlie Ward became the first player to win a Heisman Trophy and National Title since Tony Dorsett with Pitt in 1976
1994
  • SWC announced that it would disband
  • Kordell Stewart Hail Mary game
  • Choke at Doak, where Florida blew a 31-3 4th quarter lead, and tied FSU
  • Steve McNair was a Heisman Finalist, despite playing at the 1-AA level
  • Tom Osborne won first national championship

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2020, 02:42:44 PM »
I finally got unhitched in 1993 ....
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2020, 02:43:44 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 19, 2020, 02:42:44 PM
I finally got unhitched in 1993 ....
Most liberal use of the "no guidelines" guidelines ever.  I approve
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2020, 05:39:03 PM »
This is tough.
I don't like it when a team is anointed early on (like FSU was) and I don't like that Penn State didn't get a piece in 94.  
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2020, 07:16:18 PM »
2 great years back when GamePlan was as reliable as an early 80s American Car.
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2020, 08:41:37 PM »
FSU was still pretty damn good.  Gap between them and #2 Florida, was about as wide as between #2 and #8.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.footballstudyhall.com/platform/amp/2016/4/23/11490640/1993-college-football-season-florida-state-florida-nebraska-tennessee

And personally just fully grasping the national picture FSU-ND in 93 is still my Game of the Century.

Was '94 the year Spurrier benched Terry Dean when he was a Heisman candidate?
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2020, 10:26:34 PM »
Fun seasons.  Ill defer to OAM but Dean's benching was sort of a culmination of certain plays and throws that Spurrier didn't like from Dean.  I remember they barked at each other pretty good once and then he pretty much called for his own demise and of course the loss to Auburn sealed it.  Enter Danny.
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2020, 11:48:39 PM »
The Dean/Wuerffel thing was both 93 and 94.  
Dean was the backup to 2x SEC POY Shane Matthews and was the heir-apparent, but in the 2nd game of the year, threw 4 INTs in a win vs Kentucky.  So Wuerffel comes in and starts some games until he stinks vs Georgia.  Dean comes back to win the WLOCP and then they split time the next few games.  Wuerffel tweaked his knee and Dean beats Bama in the SECCG and the blowout win vs previously undefeated WV.

Cool, right?  

So 94 starts like 93, with Dean as the presumptive guy.  He orchestrated a 31-0 win @ Tennessee, was a Heisman potential, etc.  But he threw 4 INTs vs Auburn and was replaced by Wuerffel.  Florida was going to win that game, except Wuerffel inexplicably throws a deep INT into triple coverage really late.
But Spurrier stuck with Wuerffel in the WLOCP the next week and on-in.  

There were 3 things about Dean that were behind his downfall:
1 - his all-or-nothing play...he'd ad-lib and drive Spurrier crazy
2 - his reaction to Spurrier going crazy - he treated coming back to the sideline as a conversation when it was actually a "listening and learning opportunity" to put it politely.....Wuerffel was the exact opposite - he'd sieve through the ire and extract how to improve going forward
3 - he was probably more concerned with academics than football - getting his MBA and vying for a Rhodes scholly

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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2020, 11:53:14 PM »
Check out their 93-94 stats:
Dean was 60% for around 3,000 yards, 37 TD, 20 int - 150 rating (fewer att)
Wuerffel was 60% for around 4,000 yards, 40 TD, 19 int - 148 rating

It was just a matter of consistency.  The upperclassman got the start from game 1 in both seasons, but couldn't hang onto it.
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2020, 11:59:59 PM »
Cool things about 93:
desert swarm defense 
I hated them, but FSU's offense with Ward was special/unique at the time
I felt like ND had no business beating FSU, but they did
Wisconsin's special season
Marshall Faulk
Leeland McElroy's kick-returning
Florida spanking undefeated WV in the Sugar Bowl
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Cool things about 94:
Florida preseason #1
Penn State's offense
Colorado rebounding to 89-90 quality
Florida beating 11-0 Alabama in the SECCG
Oregon's special season
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2020, 06:51:45 AM »
That ND FSU game might be the first one I remember watching completely
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2020, 09:43:12 AM »
I think people remember that FSU-ND game as being more competitive than it really was.  ND really controlled that game throughout.

The fact that FSU had a shot at the end zone to tie or win it had a “How the hell did we get here?” feel to it.  ND had a two score lead most of the game.  I’ve often wondered if the ND DB picks off that 4th and 20 pass with the score 31-17 if FSU falls further than just one spot in the polls and WVU gets to play Nebraska in the Orange.

But it bounces off his hands, FSU gets a gift TD, ND goes 3 and out, and we get an ending that makes the game feel closer than it was.
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2020, 11:13:10 AM »
I voted 93 but mostly for personal reasons.  That was my freshman year at Ohio State so it was the first time I was into it as not just a fan but a part of that community.  

It was also cool for Wisconsin having success for the first time in eons.  Seriously, prior to their Rose Bowl and Big11Ten Championship, 10-1-1 season in 1993, Wisconsin:

  • Hadn't finished above .500 since 1984 (7-4-1)
  • Hadn't been to a bowl since 1984 (20-19 loss to Kentucky in the HoF)
  • Hadn't won a bowl since 1982 (14-3 over KSU in the Independence Bowl)
  • Hadn't been to a "Major" Bowl since 1962 (42-37 loss to USC in the 1963 Rose Bowl)
  • Hadn't won a major Bowl ever (they were 0-ever in prior Rose Bowls)
That was definitely Wisconsin and Alvarez' coming out party.  


I also remember watching the very first edition of what would become College Gameday at that FSU/ND game.  Ohio State had a pretty lackluster showing against Indiana that day (23-17 win, but Ohio State was 8-0-1 and ranked #5 (having fallen from 8-0 and #3 the previous week before the tie in Madison).  Indiana was 7-2 and ranked #19 so beating them 23-17 wasn't terrible but it was pretty unimpressive for a top-5 team playing at home.  

I remember thinking it was weird that ESPN was set up in South Bend since that wasn't even their broadcast.  The actual game, like all ND home games, was on NBC but ESPN went to their campus anyway and ran their show from there and I thought that was odd (it was, then).  
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1993 vs. 1994
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2020, 11:50:22 AM »
I really do love both of those seasons

obviously I'll lean to 94 because of the outcome of the Orange Bowl

but, sacking Charlie Ward 5 times, holding FSU to 18 points with 1 of 12 on 3rd down was a great effort by a huge underdog in 93
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