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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2018, 07:03:21 PM »
the democratic masses consider "chili" to be a soup with beans

sorry Texas, the mass’ usage dictates it’s ‘correct’
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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2018, 07:08:37 PM »
the democratic masses consider "chili" to be a soup with beans

sorry Texas, the mass’ usage dictates it’s ‘correct’
Well there goes the civility 

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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2018, 07:24:07 PM »
I'll dig it up bit a prof. From Nebraska studies dialects in the U.S. and he created a map w sample audio of about every dialect.   It looks like a weather map w isobars.  It's awesome.    

There is great convergence of dialects here in the lower Midwest, Ohio River Valley which makes sense.   I hear quite a bit of variance here in central IN.

The dialects in Maine are quite extreme, speaking of Queens and Old English.

My favorite Wisconsin expressionism, since most everybody knows about 'bubblers',  'I'm going to go over by Dave's house.'  When you intend to go to Dave's house.

Runner up: 'borrow me $20'.

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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2018, 07:28:17 PM »
Well it begs the question what does it really mean then?
"Begging the question" is originally a logical fallacy that's sort of a circular logic thing. Where a person says some premise and makes a conclusion based off that before proving that the premise was actually true.
An example might be something like: "There are more blue-eyed QBs than WRs because there are fewer blue-eyed WRs than QBs."
The sentence could be true if the blue part can be independently proven, but people who talk like this often try to use the red part as proof of the blue part. Which is a mistake.
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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2018, 07:30:12 PM »
That may be true, and they may like each other and enjoy whatever it is they do down there, but they're not at all interested in debate.

Haha - Palabra a tu mamá!

There's a running thread over there entirely committed to tearing down a nonsense argument "about what people who accept evolution believe." Except, it's constructed to be circular and stupid. And the thread's participants have thoroughly enjoyed pointing out how the thing that was intentionally made to look circular and stupid is ... circular and stupid.

For those who haven't seen it, it's born of an article touting this as a strong statement of evolution being logically fallacious:


Except:
(1) "Survival of the fittest" isn't even part of the modern parlance, because survival is only one aspect of selection
Even then:
(2) The evolutionary meaning of fitness is pretty specific and ignored by this (reproductive output for a given genetic variant)
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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2018, 07:39:42 PM »
It grated me enough to post it here, given the chance. (I'm a weak man.) But I knew better than to contribute there. What they are doing isn't a conversation. It's their own kind of heavily insulated fun. Let 'em have it.

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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2018, 07:49:21 PM »
It is fun.

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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #63 on: November 07, 2018, 07:54:12 PM »
Here's a link to this funhouse of examples and tidbits devoted to dialects in the U.S.    While it isn't scentific per se, its the best thing I've seen on the subject.  He keeps it relatively current.  I love the ancillary information and links he provides.
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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2018, 08:50:44 PM »
Here's a link to this funhouse of examples and tidbits devoted to dialects in the U.S.    While it isn't scentific per se, its the best thing I've seen on the subject.  He keeps it relatively current.  I love the ancillary information and links he provides.
Rick Aschmann (I guess it is his wife from NE, not certain of his background).  
Dialect Map and assorted fun
I sent it to my wife, very cool. Gotta love that Pittsburgh is basically circled as its own thing, linguistically separate from its surroundings. 

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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #65 on: November 07, 2018, 09:35:03 PM »
That "Area 51" section should really be changed to "The Cesspool" 

Makes this whole thing look like a domestic terrorist site disguised as a CFB site. 

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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2018, 02:47:44 AM »
Terry Bowden was a classmate, one year ahead of me, but I didn't know him. I believe Terry played at WVU, and so maybe the Bowdens got part of that dialect at WVU?

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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2018, 02:53:18 AM »
Language is sort of democratic that way...the mass’ usage dictates what’s ‘correct’ over time.

One that stands out to me is . . .
graduate high school.
graduate college.
Mass misusage has now allowed this to become proper, and I am not accepting it or adjusting. I will correct the younguns.

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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #68 on: November 08, 2018, 07:35:48 AM »
I see the terms "dominate" and "dominant" misused, a lot.  I find that extremely annoying.

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Re: OT: Online Civility
« Reply #69 on: November 08, 2018, 07:42:04 AM »
A word I carefully listen to, because it's horribly misstated far more often than it is said correctly - supposedly.
I probably hear it said 'supposably' around 80% of the time instead.



It's not even a misuse, it's changing the letters within a word, lol.
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