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Topic: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #336 on: August 05, 2026, 03:17:13 PM »
If everything fails, we'd be down to needing guns and ammo, water systems, penicillin, etc.  I figure more likely is something akin to runaway inflation, I'm not predicting it any time soon, but a situation where civil order doesn't collapse but is strained badly, folks end up with retirement monies worth little unable to buy enough to keep going.

MAYBE then silver coins might be of use.  Maybe not.

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #338 on: August 05, 2026, 06:19:41 PM »
If everything fails, we'd be down to needing guns and ammo, water systems, penicillin, etc.  I figure more likely is something akin to runaway inflation, I'm not predicting it any time soon, but a situation where civil order doesn't collapse but is strained badly, folks end up with retirement monies worth little unable to buy enough to keep going.

MAYBE then silver coins might be of use.  Maybe not.
IMHO if everything fails to where gold becomes money again, then we all have MUCH bigger problems than whether we have a supply of gold.

Hence, I don't own any gold. 

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #339 on: August 05, 2026, 06:25:37 PM »
Yeah, I spent a bit of effort pondering what I'd do if "society" goes under, anarchy, etc.  I figure very little useful.  The med kit would be of use for a time.  I don't want to live in the mountains in some compound, and realistically, one would need a group of likeminded to survive long.

I also have thought for decades that inflation was about to go ballistic, hyper etc.  I've lived through some pretty bad inflation, but it was mostly tamed.  I find our "financial system" to be remarkable, not all in a good way.  Anyway, I think owning a small bit of PMs is an OK thing.

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #340 on: August 05, 2026, 06:31:53 PM »

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #341 on: August 06, 2026, 09:20:56 AM »


Not sure if I'm reading this correctly, but it sounds like it would only apply to traditional IRA's, not Roths.  Roth withdrawals should already never touch your taxable income.  

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #342 on: August 06, 2026, 10:25:43 AM »
Pretax IRAs only.   

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #343 on: August 17, 2026, 07:06:26 PM »
Where would you stash short-term holdings (<1 year) for potentially planned expenses? 

Assume it's a taxable account and you're in a state with high income tax (which applies to capital gains / dividends) like CA. 

I've been stashing things short term (1-3 months) in SGOV when I've sold stock and needed to hold back for cap gains estimated tax payments. Figure it's a fine way to get a 3.5-4% annualized yield with basically zero risk. Better than a HYSA because the dividends are shielded from CA income tax. 

But I'm looking at next summer being the optimal time to buy a house. And I'll have a decent chunk of vesting RSUs over the next 4 quarters (which if sold at vest aren't going to have material cap gains) between now and then. I've been thinking of just rolling those into a safe yielding investment until I decide what I'm going to do house-wise. It's more about recession protection, because if I weren't worried about that, I'd just drop it in VTI. 

SGOV is easy, gives that 3.5-4% yield, is safe, and at least avoids the CA income tax (possibly 12.3% this year). I see other vehicles, like JAAA/JBBB/CLOZ, which have higher yields (5.34%6.95%/7.2%, respectively). But I don't know what the risk profile is, and I know they're not tax-advantaged like SGOV. Will the principal value markedly decline in a recession? I don't really know, but that would make them no better than VTI. I have some risk tolerance, but it's like the 5-10% level, not the 50% level.

Thoughts? Is there anything better than SGOV in this situation?

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #344 on: August 17, 2026, 09:13:40 PM »
My savings account or checking account 
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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #345 on: August 17, 2026, 10:03:37 PM »
I think you can find a tax-exempt money market fund that can do better..   specifically one which is state specific and maximize your avoidance of tax.     you'll also want to check AMT free eligibility.

you live in a tax hell hole. 

obligatory note: I'm an associated person of a BD, thus I will never name funds, or tickers on a public message board.

i iike making my own muni bond ladders for my less than 1 year time horizon cash,  but I'm a nerd on that stuff.  (emma is a bookmarked site for me).

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #346 on: August 17, 2026, 10:08:50 PM »
gotta have some serious $$$ in there to make much difference in under a year - 3-4%

something I don't need to worry about
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Tax equivalent yield is likely to be favorable if your combined state, local and federal tax bracket is 32% or higher.

Federal bracket reaches 32% alone right about 200k in income.   (folks often have to be reminded, that's marginal rate.  $ earned below $200k are 24%, then under $100k ish is 22%, and then I think 12% is currently around$50k).   don't forget if you get hit by the 3.8% (net investment income tax) which is a sneaky bite.

CA. obviously has a high income tax, I bet 8% in the under $75k in income range, and likely 9+% on incomes over $75k.

on that crude math, if somebody lives in CA and makes $100k or more,  you should be considering tax exempt MM funds.  If you make over $200k you are a getting crushed on your cash savings to not use tax-exempt MMFunds.

T bills are fine, even in Fund form (liquidity advantages), but it is worth shopping for Tax Free MMFs in CA, and it will be much more valuable than a few nickels.

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A high-yield MM can be had for 4-5 percent, but why make Billions when you can make Millions?
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Treasury bonds are free of state income tax.  One can of course get a MM fund based on T bills.


 

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