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Topic: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2026, 03:31:36 PM »
FWIW:
The volatility in your sector is immediately apparent.
Yep. Stock hit an ATH of 777 two weeks ago, was down into the 560 range last week, and hit about 710 at its high point today...

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2026, 01:04:04 PM »


Went to go meet a CPA for the first time yesterday to try to establish as a new client. It did not go well.

I swear, she couldn't get over the fact that I have made my peace with the idea that I have high capital gains and I am just going to have to sell and pay taxes. That my stocks are in a VERY cyclical industry and that no, I can't hold these until 2028 or longer in the hopes that I can slowly sell piecemeal and income below certain levels to avoid certain tax levels... If I wait until 2028 or beyond, I don't know how much capital gains I'll still have--that solves my tax problem, but in the worst possible way.

Do you ever go through life wondering how people get into certain professional jobs when spending only a little bit of time with them, you realize they're idiots?

The worst was that this one was a personal recommendation.



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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2026, 01:34:43 PM »
Working with a fiduciary advisor is the best thing to do.
These people scare me and I'll tell you why.  It is a long story but, I think, worth the read to understand the industry.  

When I was in my final quarter at Ohio State I was getting myself a Real Estate Major to add on to my Accounting and Finance Majors.  One of the classes I needed for it was an appraisal class.  

Everyone thinks of Ohio State as humongous and it is but the Real Estate major within the Business College is (or at least was 25 years ago) very small, like about a dozen graduates per year, REALLY small.  I was in my final quarter at Ohio State so I literally knew EVERYONE in the Real Estate program.  The appraisal class was only offered a night because the instructor was a working appraiser who wasn't available during the day and when I showed up there were ~40 people in the class and I only knew a handful.  That surprised me because, as I said above, I knew literally everyone in the RE program and I didn't know until then that this class was also offered for an alternative purpose.  

The professor was one of those guys who has everyone introduce themselves on the first day and as we went around the small number of people that I knew were, of course, Real Estate majors.  The rest were all in the Arts College majoring in something called "Personal Finance".  We (the small group of Business College Real Estate Majors) couldn't understand why the Arts College would offer a "Personal Finance" Major and why anyone would pursue it when you could get a lot more financial knowledge in ANY major in the Business College.  One of my group finally asked:  "What the heck is a Personal Finance Major?"  One of them answered that it was "A business major for people who weren't smart enough to get into the Business College."  Several of his colleagues vociferously objected to that characterization but over the course of the class we (business majors) learned that it was very much true.  

Some of the appraisals were of income property (rentals) so we had to do the calculations to discount future cash flows.  For those of us from the Business College this was standard stuff and the problems presented in the class were ludicrously easy.  I kid you not, none of the Arts College "Personal Finance" Majors could grasp the concept.  To them it might as well have been presented in Greek.  We (Business Majors) tried to explain it to them but to no avail.  They just couldn't understand it.  

The reason I shared this whole long story is that at some point during the class one of us (Business Majors) asked what the Arts College people planned to do with their Bachelor of Arts in Personal Finance Degrees and they all said that they would be stock brokers and financial planners.  We were aghast.  These people couldn't comprehend simple cash flow valuation concepts and THEY were going to advise others about finances.  

The above is @medinabuckeye1 's warning to be VERY careful about trusting stockbrokers and financial planners because they  might not know or even have any clue of WTF they are talking about.  

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2026, 01:39:28 PM »
The good news on mine is when he doesn't have an answer he a) tells me he will find or b) refers me to an expert on the topic at hand.
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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #46 on: April 22, 2026, 01:48:06 PM »
The good news on mine is when he doesn't have an answer he a) tells me he will find or b) refers me to an expert on the topic at hand.
That is frequently the hardest thing to find in any field.  

I don't want an attorney or engineer who pretends to know the answer to my question.  I want one who tells me when they know and if they don't know either tells me that they'll look into it or refers me to a specialist who will know.  

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2026, 02:16:24 PM »
Yep. Stock hit an ATH of 777 two weeks ago, was down into the 560 range last week, and hit about 710 at its high point today...
Up in the 970s today. 

Talk about a roller coaster!

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2026, 02:17:18 PM »
Buy low sell high

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2026, 02:22:14 PM »
Up in the 970s today.

Talk about a roller coaster!
You are in a really unique situation in that, as I understand it:
  • You own a substantial amount of shares, and
  • This makes up a VERY high percentage of your portfolio.  

The vast majority of people are in neither or only one of those groups.  

If you are in #1 but not #2 the dollar-value change is still just as large but since you are NOT in #2 this is only a small percentage of your overall portfolio so your overall net worth isn't impacted much (in a percentage sense).  Ie, if you are worth $2M and it goes up by $800k because this stock goes up that is a big deal but if you are worth $200M and it goes up by $800k because this stock goes up that isn't really a big deal.  

In your case, being in both of those groups, your overall total net worth is jumping all over the freaking place with THIS stock.  That is nuts.  

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2026, 04:05:34 PM »
In your case, being in both of those groups, your overall total net worth is jumping all over the freaking place with THIS stock.  That is nuts. 
Yeah, the swings are neckbreaking... 

3 years ago, we were talking about the fact that we were in a terrible market that hadn't been seen in our industry in decades. Right now, we're in a good market at a level that hasn't been seen... Ever. 

I feel very, very lucky. 

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2026, 04:30:41 PM »
I feel blessed to have an education, and experience here. 

I let professionals manage my retirement money but I watch closely.

Best advice I can give anyone is cliche it so simple:

1:  diversify 
2: play the long game.
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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2026, 05:08:57 PM »
I feel blessed to have an education, and experience here. 

I let professionals manage my retirement money but I watch closely.

Best advice I can give anyone is cliche it so simple:

1:  diversify
2: play the long game.
Yep.  You aren't in it to make a few hundred thousand today you are in it to make a few million over a few decades.  

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Re: OT - Money / Investing Thread (aka financial no stupid questions)
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2026, 11:42:09 PM »
don't trade.   just don't.   

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I feel blessed to have an education, and experience here. 

I let professionals manage my retirement money but I watch closely.

Best advice I can give anyone is cliche it so simple:

1:  diversify
2: play the long game
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Words to live by.
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My company has an option for an ESPP With a look back provision and buying at a discount. I’m Very much aware that I will pay less than taxes if I hold onto that stock for a year. But I also know that I can only sell the stock four weeks a year and have seen it swing absolutely wildly.

So we will be taking the short-term growth and any of the little extra boosts it provides and calling it a day from there.

 

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