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utee94

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Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
« Reply #1428 on: Today at 11:59:06 AM »

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« Reply #1429 on: Today at 12:02:21 PM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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« Reply #1430 on: Today at 12:36:30 PM »
RC used to be cheaper than the others, but not anymore.
I like Diet Pepsi. I gave up caffeine.
Morning drink Diet Mt. Dew.  Get grumpy if I don't have it
all of that lab concocted ka-ka is turrible,just turrible for youse
try light roast,whole bean Coffee - straight up :great:
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« Reply #1431 on: Today at 12:37:37 PM »
Stupid question…but when a piece of land gets resold or divided up and resurveyed, do they do it with modern means, GPS coordinates and all that jazz?  Or are you bound by the archaic methods?

Like Badger said, a good surveyor will likely use modern equipment while still applying his expertise and time-tested methods.  Some of those old surveyors were commendably accurate, for their day.  You have to figure that when a guy is dragging chains through the woods and following creek/river lines with a compass in his hand and calculating arpents or whatever....if he winds up close to reality, that's a good job.  

Badger would know, but I think modern guys use all kinds of cool stuff.  Lasers, and such (not the sci-fi kind that can kill you).  

I've never seen a modern field-note description that didn't wind up calculating acreage at least slightly differently than old surveys.  You would expect that to a certain degree with modern equipment.  The other thing is those creeks and rivers move a little bit over time.  The water changes your boundaries as it remakes the property.  The legal side of it (in Texas, at least) is not necessarily clear-cut.  You might assume that if the edge of a property was originally a water line, then the property line remains consistent with that body of water.  And sometimes that will be the ruling in a disputed matter.  But other times it may be found that the property line extends to the best estimate of where it used to be, the judge ruling something along the lines of saying that just because some land eroded, that doesn't mean a guy owns less of the Earth than he used to, or the guy on the other side owns more.  

It's also not legally set in stone which set of surveyor's notes is going to hold sway.  Formal legal descriptions tend to be based on surveyors' field notes.  The trick is, you can't just change your legal description because a tract got resurveyed and now it's said to comprise 5 more (or less) acres.  One thing we were never allowed to do was make legal judgements.  I could complete the title, gather the data, put reports together and point out discrepancies, but I could not change a legal description.  Frequently, that kind of stuff went to lawyers to sort out amongst varying parties.  

Bear in mind, I'm thinking about this stuff in terms of calculating the total acreage of a piece of land for the purposes of knowing how much money someone should be paid for a mineral lease.  Suppose a piece of land has long been legally described in deeds and wills as 300 acres.  But then say the most recent survey--and the first in 50 years--when plotted out, contains only 295 acres.  Does the guy legally own 300 acres or 295 acres?  Do I pay him only for 295 acres or do I have to pay him for the extra 5?  That kind of thing tended to ultimately sorted out by lawyers, even if we immediately lock up a lease and then later have to amend it.  For me, all the recorded surveys on a property ultimately were to help me make sure I'm dealing with the piece of land I'm supposed to be dealing with.   If Badger tells me this tract is 296.0532 acres, all I can really do with his updated, modern expertise, is note it and use it as confidence in my chain of title.

So if a modern survey is 25 acres off from an old survey, Badger is probably asking "How in the world did these people survey this land?  On meth?"  I'm asking "Which one of these do I pay on?"  Badger knows the answer to "How many acres is this, definitely?  Often times lawyers have to tell me the answer to "How many acres do I actually pay for?"  

and, crap.....I just re-read your comment and realized I typed all this as an answer to something you didn't really ask.  Oh well, posting anyway.  

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« Reply #1432 on: Today at 12:42:56 PM »
I’ve been to two catholic funerals. The first one was all chanting in Latin.

Second one was 4-5 guys doing 10-20 Hail Marys.

Never been to Catholic Church. Maybe once, in the 80’s. I don’t really remember much about it.

Plenty of Methodist and Baptist and all the other -ist sects though.


Back in 2004 I was a groomsman in a Catholic wedding, which was hilarious for many reasons, one of which was that I was woefully unprepared for some of the traditions that went with that.  Lots of elements that were similar to non-Catholic weddings I'd been in, but a few that caught me by surprise, which they did not prepare me for.  

I started studying theology informally a couple years ago, and with that came kind of an unintentional study of the various denominations.  Plus, my wife is Catholic now, so I've wound up knowing a fair bit about Catholocism these days.  

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« Reply #1433 on: Today at 12:46:00 PM »
I was a groomsman for one of my Jewish friends.  I wore the kippah and everything. It was similar to a Christian wedding in many ways, but also different.

The chair dance was a lot of fun. 


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« Reply #1434 on: Today at 12:47:19 PM »
I went to a Catholic funeral last week.  Chanting something. I think it was Latin as well.

More Hail Marys and chanting.

So bizarre. Not trying to dog anybody else’s religion, but it was all very strange to an outsider.
That is weird I've been to many funerals for friends Catholic parents and there were testimonies from others and scripture reading. That might be some old ancient order or sumsuch. But like Larry the cable Guy said those catholics are in good shape,standing/kneeling getting back up to sit."oh lordie" he says
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Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
« Reply #1435 on: Today at 01:04:01 PM »
all of that lab concocted ka-ka is turrible,just turrible for youse
try light roast,whole bean Coffee - straight up :great:
Only way I drink coffee is with Bailey's in it

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« Reply #1436 on: Today at 01:08:51 PM »
Try eggnog in it around the holidays
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« Reply #1437 on: Today at 01:26:04 PM »
Gas $5.65/gallon at Costco. And that was the 87 octane, since I drove the Jeep today. The 91 was $5.99 IIRC. 

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« Reply #1438 on: Today at 01:27:58 PM »
Had to drop off a check in the mailbox this morning. On the mailbox, they had a thing saying that mailbox is subject to frequent mail theft, and not to put any important or valuable mail in it. 

Umm... How about you secure your shit, USPS, not tell me that you can't be trusted with a piece of mail deposited in the mailbox RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR GODDAMN BUILDING!!!


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« Reply #1439 on: Today at 01:28:22 PM »
Gas $5.65/gallon at Costco. And that was the 87 octane, since I drove the Jeep today. The 91 was $5.99 IIRC.


I filled up at a non-Costco place for around $3.20 yesterday.  I assume Costco is cheaper than that but it wasn't convenient.

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« Reply #1440 on: Today at 01:35:48 PM »
I filled up at a non-Costco place for around $3.20 yesterday.  I assume Costco is cheaper than that but it wasn't convenient.

We have a LOT of Costco locations around here. I think I looked at it and I've got about 6 Costco stores within roughly a 10 mile radius (or a little more) from home. 

The one today is basically almost a direct line from my house to my office. 

Between that and the fact that I go to Costco weekly anyway, I rarely fill up any place else. 

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« Reply #1441 on: Today at 01:39:03 PM »
I filled up at a non-Costco place for around $3.20 yesterday.  I assume Costco is cheaper than that but it wasn't convenient.

Sheesh, I filled up yesterday for $3.44 per gallon yesterday, and in my experience this area tends to be cheaper than the Hill Country, being closer to a bunch of refineries and all.  Now I'm grumpy.  

 

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