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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2018, 03:53:09 PM »
I cut the cord last year.  I put an antenna on the tv, and have Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Sling TV.  The big minus with Sling is no BTN.  I figured I could work around the football games, which was true, but unexpectedly the Buckeyes were good in basketball so I missed a lot of them.  I will probably switch to something else in the fall that does have the BTN.  All the alternatives look more expensive, though.

BTW, as a tip, Amazon prime is great for the pay channels.  You get a free week trial on each of them, plus if you keep one you just pay for the month and have access to all their shows and movies. 

You will need something to stream them through on the non-smart tvs.  I have both a roku and an Amazon Fire.  I think Roku is set up a little better, but to each their own.  

Finally, the cable companies are catching up on this game.  Direct TV has their service, and recently I've been getting letters from Spectrum about a package that costs 21 bucks a month where I get the local channels plus 10 channels I select from a list (ESPN, AMC, etc.)  Had they included the BTN, I would have switched.  Alas...

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2018, 03:54:33 PM »
Useful stuff considering I'm moving.  We apparently get basic cable "for free" (part of the HOA of course) and likely have no other option other than to upgrade with that cable system, but we get Internet "for free" also, so that brings in options.

I figure I can get the Dawgs on TV down there fairly regularly. :)

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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2018, 04:14:14 PM »
bought Roku for my daughter

if you are cutting the cord you simply do tons of research and then decide what you can live w/o for the $$$
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2018, 05:00:33 PM »
Generally if you have an antenna for your locals, Sling is the cheapest streaming option (they don't do locals). Sadly, though, no BTN. I'm probably going to drop Sling for something else in the fall since Purdue is finally improving in football and I'll get to see more BBall. Sling also has DVR as an add-on cost, which I don't pay for, since most of the non-sports programming I want is available on demand. I have Hulu Plus (not the Live TV version, so like $8/mo), and that has most of the network shows on demand, so I don't need the DVR for those either.

I think DirecTV Now tends to be at the pricier end of the spectrum. I'd probably also look at Youtube when football starts back up. Generally I'd even cancel between now and then, but the wife and I got hooked on Food Network's "Worst Chefs in America", and so we'll keep it.

For your "main" TV, I recommend getting the Roku "box" rather than the "stick". I'm not sure what they call their box these days, I know a year ago or so they were calling it Premier or Ultra or somesuch. But the boxes tend to have higher performance processors and more RAM, so they're snappier. The sticks can't really do that easily because they're so small that they can't effectively cool themselves, and they're cheaper, so you know they're dropping cost somewhere. That cost is typically the processor/RAM. It makes the user experience better to have that performance. For the extra TV's, though, a stick is just fine.

I also recommend people check out Pluto TV. It's free and has a bunch of channels. The content can be a bit hit or miss, but there are some cool things there. One channel shows a bunch of older stand-up comedy specials. Another is an amalgamation of various food shows. If you want to placate children, there are channels that are collections of funny internet cat/dog videos, and there are channels of dedicated cartoons. You can easily get Pluto TV on your Roku. 

The other thing to look at is if there is a specific channel or show you REALLY care about, whether you can get that show through something like Amazon and just pay for it individually. In some cases it can be more cost-effective than subscribing to a specific service JUST to get a certain piece of content.

Finally, I think if you're thinking about it, just do it. What I think you might find is that a lot of the stuff you used to think you "needed" you really don't care about once it's gone. And once you start going around looking for content, you find a whole bunch of stuff through Netflix/Amazon/etc that is better than what you were watching before anyway. Netflix has some amazing original content. Amazon has less, but since you're already paying for Prime, you'd be amazed at how much they've got.

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2018, 08:17:34 AM »
Interesting stuff fellas.

Is this a Roku box?


https://www.amazon.com/Roku-Streaming-Headphones-Dual-Band-Refurbished/dp/B06XS7PCY3/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1523189675&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=roku+box&psc=1


Also, I was fishing through Amazon and I can't find where they offer much of anything in the way of network TV and live sports. Am I looking in the wrong places, or what?
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2018, 09:16:49 AM »
yup, that's the Roku box

good stuff

Network TV and therefore live sports on network TV is the catch.  They will get paid.

go directly to CBS, NBC, ABC

http://abc.go.com/apps

here's the catch for live sports

"To access select content, choose your participating TV provider and sign in with your username and password."
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2018, 09:21:19 AM »
bottom line

if you moved to Florida this fall, there's probably no way to watch all Badger games w/o paying the cable company

perhaps in a few years there will be a way without the Cable company, but the Big Ten and the Badgers are still going to get paid

ABC/ESPN are going to get paid
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2018, 09:29:06 AM »
This is really helpful advice folks.  I'm going to reread this in detail once we are settled and I understand my options.

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2018, 09:43:11 AM »
the easiest and most reliable thing to do at this time, is to simply pay the Cable Guy

otherwise you may end up in a sports bar on a Saturday afternoon

but hey, I like sports bars.  Just nothing within walking distance for me
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2018, 10:06:26 AM »


Also, I was fishing through Amazon and I can't find where they offer much of anything in the way of network TV and live sports. Am I looking in the wrong places, or what?
Amazon video doesn't do live TV. It's like Netflix in that way. 

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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2018, 10:12:08 AM »
Yep that is a Roku box and the best one.  Boxes are better than sticks because of faster processors and more memory for a smoother experience.  The Ultra supports 4K and HDR if your TV has those features but very little streaming services outside of Netflix has any 4K content because of the bandwidth.  The ultra remote has voice search and a headphone jack which are very handy.

Roku's are content neutral.  Google/Amazon/Apple are in a pissing contest right now and often won't support the other's apps.  Roku works with every service.  Simplify your homework by getting a Roku Ultra and a Sideclick and know they will work with anything you have or will get.

I have DirecTV Now and I am very satisfied with the sports programming.  I got in on it early and I have the Go Big package grandfathered in for $35/mo.  Currently it is $60/mo so I'm not sure it is the best deal.  I've also been a beta tester so I've had early access to features such as the cloud DVR and 3 streams.  Everyone should get those in the next 30 days or so.

The easiest way to get started is to get a streaming box while you still have cable/satellite.  Most cable/satellite packages have apps you can use on your streaming box so you can get familiar with how everything works.  Look at what free apps are available.  Most TV channels have free episodes of their shows on their websites.  If it is on their website, your streaming box will send it to your TV.  When you decide what channels you must have full access to, then start comparing streaming services.  

Things to check out for streaming services:
  • Do they have the channels you want?
  • Do they have local channels in your area?
  • If you really want DVR capability, does the streaming service have it?  How good is it?
  • How many concurrent streams do you get?
One of the best things about streaming services is that you don't get locked into a contract.  Try their free trials.  If you do sign up with one and find it is lacking, cancel it and try another.

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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2018, 10:16:40 AM »
bottom line

if you moved to Florida this fall, there's probably no way to watch all Badger games w/o paying the cable company

perhaps in a few years there will be a way without the Cable company, but the Big Ten and the Badgers are still going to get paid

ABC/ESPN are going to get paid
True dat but you don't have to have cable.  Streaming packages (DirecTV Now, Sling, YouTube TV, etc) have deals with Disney (ABC, ESPN) and Fox that let you get those.  I have DirecTV Now and I have more sports programming than I ever had with cable/satellite.  

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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2018, 10:26:45 AM »
And again, if you live close enough to a metro area that you can get your locals through an antenna, the picture via antenna is better that cable  satellite, or streaming. They don't overly compress the signal for OTA broadcast. 

If I have a choice of watching the weekly  Fox, ABC, or CBS games, I'd much rather use the antenna. 

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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2018, 10:38:17 AM »
Interesting stuff to be sure. 

So, this Roku box thing is the way to go. Is that wireless? It says "Ethernet" on the listing. I suppose that wouldn't be a problem because I'm putting the new modem next to the main TV.
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