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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #392 on: October 25, 2019, 07:56:48 AM »
Sounds as if 5 G "might" be being over hyped.  I know little about it beyond the casual headlines and what I've read here.  Some folks write that it's a "game changer".

Maybe it will be for autonomous cars or something of that ilk indirectly related to our lives.

I THINK autonomous vehicles are going to change our lives significantly, but that may be 15 years out.  Valets may be out of jobs, as well as Uber drivers and truck drivers.

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #393 on: October 25, 2019, 08:50:16 AM »
Meanwhile, many of us in the Big 12 wish that Fox were not our prime partner, as we are sick of 11:00 a.m. game times.
Fox is not the only network to host 11am kicks

ESPN is guilty as well
heck, your game vs the Purple Kitties on ABC kicks at 11 tomorrow
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #394 on: October 25, 2019, 09:33:28 AM »
I was out west for a few weeks and noted the 9 AM kicks, and when I was in Hawaii ....l well, I missed most games entirely.

But then, I was in Hawaii, so.

I have not been to Kauai yet.  I'd like to get back to the summit of Mauna Kea sometime.

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #395 on: October 25, 2019, 10:09:55 AM »
The problem is that the networks know that a 1 PM ET kickoff will suck for ratings. Because all the eastern time zone games kick off at noon, only die hard fans will leave a game already in progress to watch a game starting only an hour later. Hence why most kickoffs are grouped around 3-4 hour windows. Noon, 3:30 pm, then primetime around 7:30 or 8.

This is fine for MT and PT, as nobody wants a game kicking off at 9 or 10 AM local. But CT gets screwed, because there are too many schools for all of them to have afternoon kickoffs, and the networks don't want to push them to 1 pm and screw up the rest of their schedule for the day while simultaneously screwing their ratings.

So CT gets 11 AM local kicks.
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« Reply #396 on: October 25, 2019, 10:55:57 AM »
figgin money grubbing networks

1pm was preferred back in the ole Big 8 daze when all games weren't on the boob tube
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #397 on: October 25, 2019, 11:05:54 AM »
Money and power.

A lot of folks with a lot of money are "hidden" and don't really vie for power, and some folks with far less money have enormous power and influence.


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« Reply #398 on: October 25, 2019, 11:31:41 AM »
Fox is not the only network to host 11am kicks

ESPN is guilty as well
heck, your game vs the Purple Kitties on ABC kicks at 11 tomorrow
11 AM Central is considered the "national timeslot" for ABC, while 2:30 PM Central is the regional slot.  The ability to regionalize the ESPNs and reverse mirror broadcasts has made that somewhat less important than it used to be, and the "relatively recent" addition of the primetime timeslot has also diminished the importance of the 11 AM "national timeslot" some, but in general it still remains true for ABC.

It wasn't always this way, in the late 90s/early 2000s it was the opposite, with 11 AM being regional and 2:30 being national.  But I'm assuming that ABC did quite a bit of research and determined that they can gather larger national audiences at 11, than at 2:30.  Or maybe they just threw a dart and guessed.

In the olden days before TV dictated everything, Texas didn't kick off home games before nighttime until early October.  It was also fairly normal for Texas not even to host a home game until mid/late September, and instead would often travel to more northern, cooler climes for early September games. 

But that was then and this is now.



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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #399 on: October 25, 2019, 11:35:51 AM »
I find the times to be fine in the ET, all day is covered, games usually don't run over (much).

The wife allows me to veg all day after noon.  We usually do some stuff before noon, and even later if the noon games are droll.

That is a cool word along with ilk.

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« Reply #400 on: October 25, 2019, 11:40:43 AM »
I find the times to be fine in the ET, all day is covered, games usually don't run over (much).

The wife allows me to veg all day after noon.  We usually do some stuff before noon, and even later if the noon games are droll.

That is a cool word along with ilk.
We usually do the opposite here in SoCal with those 9AM kickoffs that so many low-tier B1G teams play... Two weeks ago [no kids] I watched the Purdue/Maryland game in the morning while my wife ran errands, and it was over before 1 PM. We ended up going to a couple of breweries in the afternoon, then coming home and making a great dinner. Tomorrow [also no kids] Purdue/Illinois also kicks at 9 AM, and I don't know if we have afternoon plans, but we're going to be going to a cool rooftop bar in Laguna Beach and then a nice dinner date out. When we have the kids, of course, we do very few fun things so I just sit around and watch all day. 

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #401 on: October 25, 2019, 12:06:18 PM »
The park here has a nice "farmer's market" on Saturday mornings we usually walk through.  They have music and several food trucks.  The weather here usually is very nice this time of year of course.  I found the "Dekalb Farmer's Market" which really is a very large store like Jungle Jim's in Cincy that has "everything".

Neither place has any real farmers.

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #402 on: October 25, 2019, 09:10:27 PM »
figgin money grubbing networks

1pm was preferred back in the ole Big 8 daze when all games weren't on the boob tube
The schools are just as much part of the problem.  They want the money from the networks, so they have to dance to the piper's tune.
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #403 on: October 26, 2019, 08:08:01 AM »
I'm astounded to learn that amateur athletics can be influenced by money.

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« Reply #404 on: October 26, 2019, 09:12:42 AM »
You wanna Bet?
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #405 on: October 26, 2019, 09:33:09 AM »
You wanna Bet?
I'll give you 4:1.

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