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Re: OT - Books
« Reply #126 on: August 26, 2022, 11:15:52 AM »
one of my brother's books......

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Re: OT - Books
« Reply #127 on: February 18, 2023, 02:31:06 PM »
Mentioning @rolltidefan and @MikeDeTiger as the question came up in the hobbies thread. 

Mike mentioned the book series that the show "The Expanse" was based on. I went through all 9 of the books and it was a really well done series. The first book is called Leviathan Wakes if you're looking for it. 

There's a series still in progress (8 books so far) that is called Destiny's Crucible with the first book called Cast Under an Alien Sun. To give an idea of how much the series gripped me, I ran through all 8 books in about 2 months, and now I'm anxiously awaiting the author bringing new stuff on. 

I found that author (Olan Thorensen) via another book which is more sci-fi called Harbinger, which I'd also recommend. There should be a sequel coming out at some point, but obviously he's also working on book 9 of the previous series. 

There's a book called The Hike by Drew Magary that I don't know what to call it, other than a bizarre mind f***. If you're into that sort of thing. Sort of King's "The Dark Tower" series crossed with "John Dies at the End". 

Sci-fi, I've enjoyed a lot of Adrian Tchaikovsky's stuff. 

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« Reply #128 on: February 20, 2023, 12:21:21 PM »
Mentioning @rolltidefan and @MikeDeTiger as the question came up in the hobbies thread.

Mike mentioned the book series that the show "The Expanse" was based on. I went through all 9 of the books and it was a really well done series. The first book is called Leviathan Wakes if you're looking for it.

There's a series still in progress (8 books so far) that is called Destiny's Crucible with the first book called Cast Under an Alien Sun. To give an idea of how much the series gripped me, I ran through all 8 books in about 2 months, and now I'm anxiously awaiting the author bringing new stuff on.

I found that author (Olan Thorensen) via another book which is more sci-fi called Harbinger, which I'd also recommend. There should be a sequel coming out at some point, but obviously he's also working on book 9 of the previous series.

There's a book called The Hike by Drew Magary that I don't know what to call it, other than a bizarre mind f***. If you're into that sort of thing. Sort of King's "The Dark Tower" series crossed with "John Dies at the End".

Sci-fi, I've enjoyed a lot of Adrian Tchaikovsky's stuff.

the expanse tv show is great. i only read the first book, but remember liking it as well. the show, from what i understand, follows the books about as well as can be expected. s1 of the show feels much more scifi horror/suspense than the remaining seasons, which are more space dramas, but they all really good. thomas jane was excellent in the show, as was much of the cast.

in other thread, asimov was mentioned. i haven't yet read foundations, but i have read many of his short stories. loved the last question.

i like long series, so that thorensen one looks intriguing.

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« Reply #129 on: February 20, 2023, 12:53:15 PM »
Currently reading King Leopold's Ghost. It's about how Leopold of Belgium went about acquiring and turning the Belgian Congo Free State into his own personal fiefdom of human atrocities. Interesting stuff. https://a.co/d/18lYHmc

I just finished Astoria by Peter Stark (https://a.co/d/bQtk2S9) about John Jacob Astor's efforts to establish a fur trading outpost in Oregon to facilitate global triangular trade. The hell early American settlers experienced was incredible. 

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« Reply #130 on: February 21, 2023, 09:44:29 AM »
the expanse tv show is great. i only read the first book, but remember liking it as well. the show, from what i understand, follows the books about as well as can be expected. s1 of the show feels much more scifi horror/suspense than the remaining seasons, which are more space dramas, but they all really good. thomas jane was excellent in the show, as was much of the cast.
Yeah, and frankly book 1 was far more of the horror/suspense than the other books. 

My understanding is that the TV series basically only followed up to about the end of book 6. While I could see how that might be an appropriate end point (particularly due to book 7 starting a few decades later in time), I'd recommend reading the books because I think the final three really pull it all together properly. 

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« Reply #131 on: February 21, 2023, 10:02:02 AM »
The show didn't end at a good point, Amazon just pulled the plug.  Although they gave plenty of notice and the producers had ample time to write out an ending, they said they chose to continue to do roughly one book per season since 1) they didn't want to cheat the material, and 2) they had hope that one day another platform would buy the show and continue it.  Seems unlikely. 

Each season had a story and they told it relatively well.  There was an overarching story line that just got sort of abandoned for long stretches of time and the show ended before the it completed the "big" story or answered the major questions.  Namely, what's up with the civilization who built the Ring Gates and what's up with their enemies they were in a war with?  I assume the books eventually lead up to that.  The tv series doesn't make it that far.  

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« Reply #132 on: February 21, 2023, 10:10:35 AM »
Yeah, the books do bring that to conclusion.

I won't say more, because I don't want to say anything that might be a spoiler. 

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« Reply #133 on: February 23, 2023, 02:47:32 PM »
Good to get a personal recommendation on those.  I was probably going to start them anyway, but I like when I can get a favorable review on reading material.  

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« Reply #134 on: March 23, 2023, 01:49:24 PM »
been reading through john scalzi books. started with old man's war and the rest of the series. fun books. i think i might like the one from the daughter's perspective the best. just finished his newest, kaiju preservation society. really lite reading and fun. not as good as old man's war stuff, but still good for a quick easy read. gets fairly political, but i don't really care on that as long as it fits the story/characters.

starting the murderbot diaries series by martha wells. maybe 2 chapters into book 1, all systems red. jumps right into some action. appears to be very much in the same vein of scalzi, fun, lite, action scifi. pretty short books, too, but there are several in the series already (6 i think so far).

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« Reply #135 on: March 23, 2023, 02:50:46 PM »
I read the first of the Murderbot series and just couldn't get into it. Finished it but had no interest in continuing with the rest of the series. 

There's a trilogy by Alastair Reynolds with the first book called Revelation Space that's really good. Definitely more of the hard sci-fi genre. 

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« Reply #136 on: March 23, 2023, 03:00:09 PM »
I've tried to start The Expanse TV show 3 or 4 times, and never get past a couple of episodes.  They really just don't grab me.

I've heard the books were good, but I heard the TV show was too, and I just can't watch it.

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Re: OT - Books
« Reply #137 on: March 24, 2023, 08:51:25 AM »
Some authors I really enjoy:

John Sanford (wrote the Minnesota detective series et al.)

Bernard Cornwell (wrote the Last Kingdom series et al.)

Stephen Hunter (the Bob Lee Swagger series)

Michael Connelly (Bosch and the Lincoln lawyer)




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Re: OT - Books
« Reply #138 on: March 28, 2023, 11:43:32 AM »
Finished reading Philip Roth’s American Pastoral, winner of the coveted Pulitzer Prize in 1998. Roth’s novel seeks to be an ambitious literary statement – some would call it a pretentious read – as it follows in the footsteps of many past literary figures who’ve searched for a final word on the American Dream. Roth is a skilled enough writer to attempt his own say on the American Dream – an otherwise over worn theme that’s occupied and hamstrung the highest levels of American Literature since the 1920s. Nevertheless, the reader (or at least me) is left weighed down by the exceeding pessimism/cynicism/negativity of Roth’s American Pastoral.

Set in mostly Newark NJ, the plot follows its uplifting and upstanding main character, Seymour Levov, as the narrative jumps back and forth across Levov’s life from the WWII 1940s through the social upheavals of the 1960s and ending in the 1990s when the undeserved damage to Levov’s life has set in. With Levov, Roth creates an otherwise perfect character, a living American Dream – local basketball star, caretaker of his family’s glove manufacturing business, devout to religion and his growing family, and deserving of his contentment – only to systematically destroy this character, piece by piece, and by doing so, souring the sense of optimism that a self-built post-WWII America affords. The Wikipedia page for American Pastoral sums this up well: “Seymour sadly concludes that everyone he knows may have a veneer of respectability, but each engages in subversive behavior, and that he cannot understand the truth about anyone based upon the conduct they outwardly display. He is forced to see the truth about the chaos and discord rumbling beneath the "American pastoral."

As readers, I don’t believe we invite much of our reading to inform us of the author, especially that of commercial fiction. But in the case of literary figures it’s almost unavoidable. After reading enough F. Scott Fitzgerald, we might rightfully conclude that Gatsby’s famed author was a hopeless dreamer with persistent financial problems. With Edgar Allen Poe or Franz Kafka we might conclude they both 1) needed psychological help but 2) also used their unsettling writings as a form of self-psychological help. We’d also might rightfully conclude that Sylvia Plath suffered from a number of mental illnesses after reading her memorable novel The Bell Jar which progresses quite helplessly through the mental downfall of the novel’s main character.

Hardly any of the fiction we read leaves us upset by the thematic intentions of an author. But in this case, Philip’s Roth’s message is that of spreading hopelessness; American Pastoral wants readers to distrust post-WWII America, each other, and ourselves.


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« Reply #139 on: March 28, 2023, 11:56:14 AM »
Sounds cheerful.

I used to read a lot of that kind of stuff.  Indeed, Fitzgerald has long been my favorite author of all time and it's an understatement to say that "hopelessness, disillusionment, and despair are a recurring central theme" in his writings.

I think as a youngster I was interested in exploring such stories, because I was generally happy and hopeful.  It played as an interesting contrast to my nature.  I probably felt it made me more of a deep thinker, and I might have been at least a little bit correct about that.  It at least opened me up to the idea of alternative states.

But now, I see enough hopelessness, disillusionment, and despair in my real life, that I don't feel the need to explore it in my free time.  It's not that it worries me or saddens me, it's really that it just kind of bores me.  I'd rather spend my time reading something else.

 

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