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iahawk15

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« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2021, 10:40:07 AM »
Quote from: ELA on August 21, 2021, 09:23:37 AM
Yup.  Granted they were kind of forced out, but arrested development was in the same boat. Then they came back with some very unfunny Netflix seasons
Yeah, I can't really think of shows in their entirety as awesome because I'm so sensitive to drop-offs. Seasons 1-2 of Arrested Development is in my top 3-5 peak shows of all time. Season 3 was starting to slide w/the Charlize Theron storyline feeling forced and writing the infighting with Fox into the show was a major turnoff for me. The comeback seasons were cringe.
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Re: OT: Best TV Show Ever?
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2021, 10:46:46 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 21, 2021, 10:32:02 AM
Great f'n show. The original seasons- one of the best comedy shows ever on tv. The Netflix ones- turrrrible.

As far as comedies go, I'd say Seinfeld, Arrested Development, The Office UK & US (with Steve Carrell), It's Always Sunny, Extras, & Curb Your Enthusiasm are all way up there.
This is basically my list, minus Office UK (probably great, but I can't handle the awkwardness) and Extras (haven't seen it), adding in The Simpsons.

Back to my last comment, I mostly think of peak seasons:

Arrested Developments, seasons 1-2
Seinfeld, seasons 2-6
The Simpsons, seasons 3-8ish
The Office, seasons 2-6
Sunny, seasons 3-7
Curb, seasons 1-5
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Re: OT: Best TV Show Ever?
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2021, 10:55:10 AM »
Never really got into The Simpsons. I just can't do cartoons.

The one cartoon I will say that I found hilarious and have watched some of- South Park. I just love that they take the piss out of everyone and anything- they say F that PC sissy bullshit- we're coming after everyone, no filter, no censorship. Love it.
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« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2021, 10:56:44 AM »
Quote from: ELA on August 20, 2021, 09:32:50 PM
Not a TV show, but rise of Skywalker is the one movie sequel that wasn't just bad, but was bad in a way that retroactively made the prior movies worse, by diminishing them. For that reason alone, I think it stands above bad sequels, or bad endings to TV shows.
Unpopular opinion: Star Wars is for children and nerds and it sucks. Liked them as a kid. Watched them as an adult and watched the new ones probably just because of nostalgia- they suck. All of them.
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« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2021, 11:34:51 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 21, 2021, 10:56:44 AM
Unpopular opinion: Star Wars is for children and nerds and it sucks. Liked them as a kid. Watched them as an adult and watched the new ones probably just because of nostalgia- they suck. All of them.
I agree.  I saw the first three.  Then, years later, I saw the one with Jar Jar Binks (Episode 1?) and hated it.  I have not felt like I needed to watch any more of them.
Even in the original three, the characters are like cardboard cutouts.  The plots may be good or not-so-good, but the characters are not convincing in the least.  Bugs Bunny cartoons have more character development than Star Wars does.
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« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2021, 11:38:24 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 21, 2021, 11:34:51 AM
I agree.  I saw the first three.  Then, years later, I saw the one with Jar Jar Binks (Episode 1?) and hated it.  I have not felt like I needed to watch any more of them.
Even in the original three, the characters are like cardboard cutouts.  The plots may be good or not-so-good, but the characters are not convincing in the least.  Bugs Bunny cartoons have more character development than Star Wars does.
Literally the only interesting character in any of those movies is Darth Vader. And we don't get enough of him in my opinion- and when they did those prequels with Jar Jar Binks to explore DV's backstory- those movies were SO awful and the guy they picked to play Darth Vader as a young man couldn't act his way out of a paper bag.
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« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2021, 12:08:27 PM »
So Star Wars sucks because it has bad sequels? 

Last I checked Godfather 3 wasn't making anyone's list. 

Terminator 2 must be the worst movie ever made, by that logic. 
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« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2021, 12:14:01 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 21, 2021, 12:08:27 PM
So Star Wars sucks because it has bad sequels?

Last I checked Godfather 3 wasn't making anyone's list.

Terminator 2 must be the worst movie ever made, by that logic.
No they all suck. All of the movies. 

GF 3 was an abortion when compared to the first two masterpieces- but it's still better than any freaking Star Wars movie- and Pacino & Andy Garcia were freaking fantastic in it. 
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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2021, 07:02:39 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 21, 2021, 11:34:51 AM
I agree.  I saw the first three.  Then, years later, I saw the one with Jar Jar Binks (Episode 1?) and hated it.  I have not felt like I needed to watch any more of them.
Even in the original three, the characters are like cardboard cutouts.  The plots may be good or not-so-good, but the characters are not convincing in the least.  Bugs Bunny cartoons have more character development than Star Wars does.
I think the first movie started out as an amazing visual movie and over the years that esteem leaked into the quality of the movie itself and then the last couple of generations just grew up thinking it was a great movie.  
A similar idea would be Jurassic Park - where the CGI mostly still holds up today, amazingly, had that fact bleed into the greatness of the movie itself....but I don't feel like that's happened.  Or maybe it has - it was so amazing at the time, visually, and maybe that's enough for it to still matter and have its story continue into the present.  
But I don't think there's the same obsession as with Star Wars.  
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Maybe it's not that, maybe it was just the first Sci-Fi movie that had enough action in it to make it big in the mainstream.
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Re: OT: Best TV Show Ever?
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2021, 07:20:27 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 21, 2021, 07:02:39 PM
I think the first movie started out as an amazing visual movie and over the years that esteem leaked into the quality of the movie itself and then the last couple of generations just grew up thinking it was a great movie. 
A similar idea would be Jurassic Park - where the CGI mostly still holds up today, amazingly, had that fact bleed into the greatness of the movie itself....but I don't feel like that's happened.  Or maybe it has - it was so amazing at the time, visually, and maybe that's enough for it to still matter and have its story continue into the present. 
But I don't think there's the same obsession as with Star Wars. 
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Maybe it's not that, maybe it was just the first Sci-Fi movie that had enough action in it to make it big in the mainstream.
I thought that Star Wars I was a great adventure movie, albeit one with rather unconvincing characters.  No. II was not so good, but No. III was a great story again.  But the cardboard characterizations never got any better.  After Episode 1 with Jar-Jar Binks, and even less convincing characters, there was no reason for me to watch any more of them.
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« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2021, 07:22:16 PM »
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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2021, 07:36:47 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 21, 2021, 07:22:16 PM
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Re: OT: Best TV Show Ever?
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2021, 07:53:35 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 21, 2021, 07:36:47 PM
Look, it's HB's understanding of evolution!
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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2021, 08:27:45 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 21, 2021, 12:14:01 PM
No they all suck. All of the movies.

GF 3 was an abortion when compared to the first two masterpieces- but it's still better than any freaking Star Wars movie- and Pacino & Andy Garcia were freaking fantastic in it.
Um no in '77 when the original came out it captured people's attention and imagination like nothing before it. Lots of Gangster flicks came out,nothing like the lightning in a bottle of Star Wars.I remember the lines outside the old style theaters - the big ones.Only saw it on like the second night before it got big is we saw the wild commercial on TV of the bar scene,figure it was so bizarre we'd catch it.Caught the early showing,could hardly get out of the place as people were flocking in.Jaws broke the attendance figures that lasted a whole year or two then Obe wan
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