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Topic: Orange Post Game: #3 Georgia 34, #2 Michigan 11

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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan v. #3 Georgia
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2021, 08:44:11 PM »
It's an opinion, as all such comparisons must be.  Many likely agree.  Bennett's "Passer Rating" on ESPN was 176.8, whatever that means.

You know what McNamara's was?  I am not saying this matters as I don't understand the stat.


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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2021, 10:55:18 PM »
In the preseason, Michigan received just 12 AP Top 25 votes. There were 5 Big Ten teams in that preseason AP poll, including an Indiana team that finished 2-10. There were also 5 Big Ten sides in the preseason AFCA Coaches Poll, none of them Michigan. Indiana was there again. Northwestern, which finished 3-9, got more votes than Michigan from the coaches. The Wolverines got nearly as many votes as UCF.

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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2021, 11:08:10 PM »
Who has ever suggested they don't play the games?

Why does every debate deteriorate into who can make the dumbest strawman the fastest and consider themselves the winner?
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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2021, 11:10:32 PM »
who said there was an argument? Georgia's 5-foot-10 walk-on QB is- well...not very good. And as limited as Cade McNamara is- he's better than him. There is no argument, it's just a fact.
I don't think you know what "fact" means.

You seem too focused on Bennett's height and not focused enough on his play before last Saturday.  

How old are you?
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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2021, 06:03:05 AM »
I’ve seen little of Georgia this year outside of highlights.  Watched the 1st quarter of the SEC championship game vs. Alabama and that’s about it.  Georgia looked very strong. Michigan has a chance if the Bulldogs’ heads ain’t right. 
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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2021, 06:13:19 AM »
I think such games very often reflect the unpredictable TIO margin.  UGA had a bad one with Bama.  It's no fun because we can't predict it, so "we" rely on stats and impressions and common opponents, if there are any.

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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2021, 08:34:25 AM »
who said there was an argument? Georgia's 5-foot-10 walk-on QB is- well...not very good. And as limited as Cade McNamara is- he's better than him. There is no argument, it's just a fact.
Is this based on metrics?  Or an eyeball test?  How do the statistics compare?


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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2021, 10:25:22 AM »
Is this based on metrics?  Or an eyeball test?  How do the statistics compare?
it's based on: size, physical ability, eyeball test, NFL Draftability. Cade is barely 6'ft but he's at least 6'ft. Bennett is 5'10. Cade's got a better arm- even if it's barely above average. The only thing Bennett does better than Cade is move around. Cade might wind up being a 6th or 7th round pick if he's lucky, Bennett will never sniff an NFL Draft.

I don't doubt that JT Daniels would be a better option than Bennett for a second. Kirby has proven he'll go with the inferior talent at QB- dude picked freaking Jake Fromm over the generational talent that was Justin Fields and it cost him a shot at a national title. They are playing for a title in 2018 & 2019 if he had just handed the reins over to Fields.

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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2021, 10:37:40 AM »
I don't think you have any concept about how important mobility will be when Georgia sends its pass rushers after McNamara. He doesn't stand a chance. You think because Alabama was able to escape that pass rush that it is not very good. Alabama was able to survive only because of Bryce Young and his ability to escape pressure.

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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2021, 10:41:52 AM »
I think such games very often reflect the unpredictable TIO margin.  UGA had a bad one with Bama.  It's no fun because we can't predict it, so "we" rely on stats and impressions and common opponents, if there are any.
look I'll admit I'm totally prisoner of the moment. Georgia is a damn good team. Every single team has flaws/holes/weaknesses. There is not one perfect team out there- there's no 2004 USC or 2001 Miami out here. This thing is up for grabs for anyone. 

Alabama was a bad match-up for Georgia. From what I see in Georgia's defense; they have ton of size on the DL but their DL has zero pass rushers. These are all grown-ass men like Jordan Davis who are employed to occupy OL's and let the Georgia LB'ers cut loose. Georgia have incredible LB'ers, and it looks to me like they needed to blitz those LB'ers to get any pressure- which is not good- because when you blitz you leave the secondary vulnerable- and well their secondary looked like an eye sore. I don't know how you have that many busted/blown coverages and how you keep putting guys on an island in man coverage and just let them get blow-torched. At some point....maybe make some adjustments? I was actually feeling sorry for Georgia fans and it gave me flashbacks and nightmares of Don Brown. Could've sworn it was Don Brown calling Georgia's defense.

Said it a million times, this Georgia D looks very Don Brown-ish to me. It's built kinda similar as well. Brown had Rashan Gary and thought it'd be a great idea to make him occupy blocks and set the edge- and blitz everyone else- instead of hey- maybe just letting the guy who is 6'4, 275 pounds and runs a 4.57 go and rush the passer. Don Brown was even doing the same shit to Aidan Hutchinson- asking him to be a run stuffer/edge setter- which is why you didn't see Hutchinson really take-off until they got rid of Don Brown's ass and got Mike McDonald from the NFL and McDonald completely revamped the defense.

Georgia was being hyped up to the 9th degree- like they were on par with 2001 Miami or the 85 Bears. They are a really good team- but they ain't THAT. 

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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2021, 10:45:55 AM »
I don't think you have any concept about how important mobility will be when Georgia sends its pass rushers after McNamara. He doesn't stand a chance. You think because Alabama was able to escape that pass rush that it is not very good. Alabama was able to survive only because of Bryce Young and his ability to escape pressure.
I think that's the case our humble Michigan correspondant was making with JJ McCarthy
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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2021, 10:46:06 AM »
I don't think you have any concept about how important mobility will be when Georgia sends its pass rushers after McNamara. He doesn't stand a chance. You think because Alabama was able to escape that pass rush that it is not very good. Alabama was able to survive only because of Bryce Young and his ability to escape pressure.
Georgia rarely if ever got pressure on Young. They literally only got pressure on Young when they blitzed, and when they blitzed the Bama RB Robinson was excellent in pass pro at picking up the blitz and Georgia's back-end got blow-torched. Michigan has a really good OL and a starting RB that is excellent in pass pro.

Michigan's pass rush ain't too shabby, and they get can get heat on the QB just sending 4. They have the highest pressure rate with sending 4 rushers in the entire country according to PFF. OLB/DE Aidan Hutchinson (14 sacks) will be a top 3 pick in the 2022 NFL Draft and OLB/DE David Ojabo (11.5) sacks will be a top 10-20 pick in the 2022 NFL draft. They are the only teammates in the entire P5 that have double digit sacks.
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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2021, 10:50:51 AM »
I think that's the case our humble Michigan correspondant was making with JJ McCarthy
JJ isn't just mobile....he's fast! Kid has a howitzer for an arm too AND he can throw with touch & accuracy. His throwing motion/mechanics are literally perfect. I've only seen one QB in my entire time of watching Michigan football with same kind of natural talent as him- Drew Henson. These dudes had/have #1 overall NFL Draft pick talent.

Chad Henne had a gun but he was really slow and could not throw at all from outside the pocket, Mallett had the strongest arm I've ever seen but he was only in Ann Arbor for about 5 minutes. Shane Morris could run a little bit and had a cannon but he completely sucked at football. Ditto Joe Milton.

They are not going to be able to keep JJ on the bench for long. He's the starter next year.

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Re: Orange Bowl: #2 Michigan (12-1) vs. #3 Georgia (12-1)
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2021, 10:52:46 AM »
I could see McCarthy getting more time if Michigan struggles to move the ball. 

 

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