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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #84 on: May 25, 2020, 09:06:27 AM »
I get a notion that the mask thing is underappreciated as a preventative, looking at some Asian precedents.  It's not for you, it's for them, and I can't fathom the resistance to wearing one at times.
I was reading an article about the propaganda campaign during the Spanish Flu to try to get men to wear masks. Some said it was an affront on their civil liberties. Some just chafed against it because they considered it "feminine" to wear a mask. I think for many it belied a sense of fear and vulnerability in a culture where men are supposed to never show fear. 

I suspect it's mainly that last one. Wearing a mask shows fear. Men aren't allowed to show fear. Every other reason is just a rationalization for that. 

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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #85 on: May 25, 2020, 09:12:14 AM »
so THAT's why I don't wear a mask

good to know

makes sense
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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #86 on: May 25, 2020, 09:28:51 AM »
Personally, I wear one because my wife told me to. 

I fear some things more than coronavirus :57:

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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #87 on: May 25, 2020, 10:18:18 AM »
We wear one if we are near anyone else, aside from passing quickly on a sidewalk.

It's a courtesy, and I think is more effective than one might think.  I see repeated disinformation memes on FB about masks for whatever reason, they may come from foreign bots.

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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #88 on: May 25, 2020, 01:41:20 PM »
So Housing and Res Life will determine if there will be athletics on campus this fall. 

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« Reply #89 on: May 25, 2020, 02:04:52 PM »
So Housing and Res Life will determine if there will be athletics on campus this fall.
I mean, that’s one way to describe boards, presidents and the powers behind them.

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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #90 on: May 26, 2020, 10:01:27 AM »
https://insidehighered.com/news/2020/05/15/colleges-seek-protection-lawsuits-if-they-reopen?utm_content=buffer35d26&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=IHEbuffer&fbclid=IwAR1751VGnPelohn7mvVjPcpV369h3KZt5DrcnVpGfZEpx7Yyp3Bx6z-h8iI

If the gov't protects Universities from lawsuits, does this change the likelihood of fall sports?   And will schools make the decisions or conferences?   What if everyone in the BIG says we are starting school this fall but Iowa.  Then what?  

I still think enough programs will be concerned about "student welfare"... I mean lawsuits that we will not have fall sports.  jmo

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« Reply #91 on: May 26, 2020, 10:13:46 AM »
https://insidehighered.com/news/2020/05/15/colleges-seek-protection-lawsuits-if-they-reopen?utm_content=buffer35d26&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=IHEbuffer&fbclid=IwAR1751VGnPelohn7mvVjPcpV369h3KZt5DrcnVpGfZEpx7Yyp3Bx6z-h8iI

If the gov't protects Universities from lawsuits, does this change the likelihood of fall sports?  And will schools make the decisions or conferences?  What if everyone in the BIG says we are starting school this fall but Iowa.  Then what? 

I still think enough programs will be concerned about "student welfare"... I mean lawsuits that we will not have fall sports.  jmo

I think  by the time we hit the Fall, so many students and young people will have already had it, that it's not going to be a big deal.

I also don't think anyone's going to be able to prove someone got it during a football game, rather than in kinesiology class, or at the grocery store, or at the nightclub, or in the dorm cafeteria, or in the dorm bathroom, or at the restaurant.  I think the fear of lawsuits is overblown.

That doesn't mean some places won't go forward with cancellations "out of an abundance of caution" but it does mean that the world is going to look very different in 3 months.  This is certainly my opinion based on my own assumptions, of course.

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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #92 on: May 26, 2020, 11:21:12 AM »
I think  by the time we hit the Fall, so many students and young people will have already had it, that it's not going to be a big deal.


it won't be a big deal until a few students die.  athletes or otherwise
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« Reply #93 on: May 26, 2020, 11:26:03 AM »
it won't be a big deal until a few students die.  athletes or otherwise
That's not really happening now, so I don't see a whole lot of reason to think it will happen in the Fall.

Like I keep saying, the young people didn't stop socializing just because classes were shut down and bars weren't open.  They kept on meeting in groups that they weren't related to, they kept on dating, they kept on hooking up, they kept on  drinking, they kept on partying.  They just did it behind closed doors.

And now, they're not even forced to do it behind closed doors in most places.  They're hitting the lake, the  beach, and the bars once again.

Whole different world 3 months from now.

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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #94 on: May 26, 2020, 11:31:01 AM »
I hope you're right

I just think it's inevitable that a few students will die.

and this would have happened if they were back on campus or not, but since they are on campus, it will be a huge deal. 
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« Reply #95 on: May 26, 2020, 11:36:35 AM »
I'm going to guess someone will file a lawsuit if they become sick.  They complaint will be the school did not do enough to help prevent the spread or protect the students.    I do think that will be the situation.  It won't be a death.   It will be about someone or a group who feels proper steps were not taken... and the courts will then determine what should be considered proper steps.   Universities will want to be on the correct side of the prevention bell curve.   

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« Reply #96 on: May 26, 2020, 11:51:08 AM »
It's going to be pretty difficult to prove they got it from someone on the team, even if a couple of players test positive at the same time. 

Looking at it through the current lens is the problem most are having right now.  These kids are going to spend all summer mingling.  There will be a lot of infection between now and then.  There won't be a lot of severe illness or death, because that's just not happening at significant rates in their age group.


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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #97 on: May 26, 2020, 11:52:44 AM »
What are college students doing this summer?  It's an interesting question, some activities above no doubt are happening.  Quite a few probably are working at Lowe's et al. or restaurants.  They aren't going to bars or concerts or nightclubs until the wee hours.  I wonder if some "crop up" gypsy nightclubs are extant.


 

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