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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #140 on: May 29, 2020, 12:29:29 PM »
Frost needs a pay cut, to a salary commensurate with his performance. That would help.
so, does Paul need a raise?

are you measuring performance as wins and losses only?
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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #141 on: May 29, 2020, 03:39:34 PM »
It was interesting in this book about the TC railroad how the folks in California had trouble getting workers.  They often didn't get paid.  So, they sort of caved in and hired Chinese with considerable debate and trepidation.  It turned out they worked harder and longer and cheaper and with few labor issues than anyone else, so they actively promoted folks in China to come over.

I see that today with Hispanics and jobs like meat plants and construction.  Nearly every construction site around us is being worked by Hispanics.  And you don't see them standing around lollygagging either.
If you recall, a lot of the workers that the Central Pacific (building eastward from Sacramento) hired deserted as soon as the line of advance got near the gold fields.  The Chinese didn't desert.  IIRC, it may have been because they were excluded from owning land.
The Union Pacific (building westward from Omaha) had a motley crew of Irish immigrants, Civil War veterans (from both sides), and assorted reprobates.  The track crew was closely followed by "Hell on Wheels," the mobile bordello and gambling hall that followed right behind the workers.
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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #142 on: May 29, 2020, 04:50:03 PM »
It was known it likely would happen at some point, and Bill Moos thought Husker athletics proved prepared for when it did.

A Husker player did test positive for COVID-19, Nebraska's athletic director confirmed during an interview with Husker247 on Friday, and was moved to isolation.

"We have had a positive that I know of, only one so far," Moos said. "We followed the protocol on the testing to determine that it was a positive test, and then the protocol continued as to isolation and addressing it. We don't want any positive tests, but we have now gone through the actual positive test in how we addressed it, and it worked very, very well. And if we have another positive test, we know that our protocol works and will be followed again."


Moos said earlier this week the Huskers have a strict protocol for their athletes that has even been copied by peer institutions in the conference. When student-athletes arrive, they are quarantined for two days, and then tested, with a helping hand from UNMC.

As for handling a positive test?

"Anyone who was involved with that student – that would be those who conducted the test, the trainers, a football operations person, for example, they are quarantined and tested after 48 hours," Moos said. "The individual who did test positive goes into an isolation period while going through the rest of the protocol before they can return to voluntary activities."

Moos has said that about 150 to 175 student-athletes were already on campus, with more arrivals coming with voluntary workouts being opened back up in small groups beginning June 1.


For new arrivals, some will be in dorms in the beginning for summer sessions, "but we're in the process of hopefully getting a waiver to allow freshmen to live off campus, and I'm very optimistic that we will get that," Moos said. "We're talking about less than 20 in football, and maybe 25 and a couple more for all the fall sports. So I'm optimistic that we'll get some relief there."

According to Moos, "a good many of (the newcomers) have already been here, and have been tested, and they're ready to come in on Monday to start voluntary workouts. And we have continued through this week, and on to next, on more waves of primarily football players," but also volleyball, men's and women's basketball, and soccer.

Nobody is required to work out, and have to be in groups of 10 or less, and that includes those trainers in the room.

Moos has reiterated to his team in the athletic department the same thing he said from the very beginning of the COVID-19 concerns: The playbook has changed, and it's an opponent you don't know a whole lot about, nor how long you will be competing with it.
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Re: Opening up for Football
« Reply #144 on: June 03, 2020, 08:46:47 AM »
Oklahoma State linebacker Amen Ogbongbemiga said in a tweet on Tuesday that he has tested positive for Covid-19 after attending a protest.

"After attending a protest in Tulsa AND being well protective of myself, I have tested positive for COVID-19," Ogbongbemiga tweeted. "Please, if you are going to protest, take care of yourself and stay safe."


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« Reply #145 on: June 03, 2020, 08:48:35 AM »
I see the Minister of Health in Sweden saying they could have done better, some hybrid thing, which makes sense.

If the objective is simply to keep the elderly safe and prevent hospital collapse, we can probably do that while keeping classes open, but we may have to require face masks across the board.

Colleges are ideal venues for contagion for obvious reasons.

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« Reply #146 on: June 03, 2020, 08:58:56 AM »
Oklahoma State linebacker Amen Ogbongbemiga said in a tweet on Tuesday that he has tested positive for Covid-19 after attending a protest.

"After attending a protest in Tulsa AND being well protective of myself, I have tested positive for COVID-19," Ogbongbemiga tweeted. "Please, if you are going to protest, take care of yourself and stay safe."


Seems pretty quick to have attended one of these protests, been infected, had it incubate, get a test, and then already have the test results.  

I think it's probably more likely he contracted it beforehand.  Like I've said many times, a huge portion of the college-aged population never social-distanced, never stopped meeting and hanging out, never stopped dating, never stopped hooking up, never stopped having house parties.  They're kids, they feel invincible, and they're not listening to authorities.

I think it's possible he just doesn't want to admit all the other stuff, and the protests are a convenient and plausible excuse. 

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« Reply #147 on: June 03, 2020, 09:35:52 AM »
It is possible if he contracted it on Friday.  He might not yet have symptoms, could have been feeling a bit sick and got tested, and his team required testing.

"We" are going to have to deal with this thing as is lies, simple as that.

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« Reply #148 on: June 03, 2020, 09:38:57 AM »
It is possible if he contracted it on Friday.  He might not yet have symptoms, could have been feeling a bit sick and got tested, and his team required testing.

"We" are going to have to deal with this thing as is lies, simple as that.
Exposure Friday to positive results Tuesday would be... really, really quick.  Like I said, I think it's unlikely.

But I do agree that "we are going to have to deal with this thing as it lies."  I agree 100%.  Pandora's box is open.

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« Reply #149 on: June 03, 2020, 09:50:03 AM »
It's not really that quick, symptoms CAN show up in 2 days after exposure.  Antibodies would be present even sooner.  The mean time of symptoms is a bit over a week and can be longer (or never).  There is quite a range.

But symptoms or not, you'd still test positive.

The other side of course is he's contagious and was out in a crowd.  R naught could have been ten or more.

If there are say just ten like him in a crowd of 1,000 and R0 is 10, that is 100 infections in one day, and the next day it would be wildfire.

 

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