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Mdot21

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2017, 09:53:37 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 01, 2017, 05:22:23 PM
**MrNubbz gets struck by lightning**
statistically speaking, Nubbz has a better chance winning the power ball. By the way Nubbz if you win it's $177,000,000. I want a cut. Please.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2017, 10:26:13 PM »
I'm buying a ticket in the morning

can't lose if ya don't play
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2017, 12:05:40 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 01, 2017, 09:53:37 PM
statistically speaking, Nubbz has a better chance winning the power ball. By the way Nubbz if you win it's $177,000,000. I want a cut. Please.
What % of the lighting bolt do you want?
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2017, 05:56:11 AM »
What sort of penalties do folks here think would have been proper?

I agree that a bowl ban for a bad team is a nothing.  I don't know why Ole Miss bothers fighting that.  I suppose players may leave.

Can players leave without sitting out a year?  That would be a hit.

The thing about an Ole Miss is that not much really impacts them at this point.  They could walk off scott free and still be a bad team unable to recruit very well.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2017, 07:50:03 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 02, 2017, 05:56:11 AM
What sort of penalties do folks here think would have been proper?

I agree that a bowl ban for a bad team is a nothing.  I don't know why Ole Miss bothers fighting that.  I suppose players may leave.

Can players leave without sitting out a year?  That would be a hit.

The thing about an Ole Miss is that not much really impacts them at this point.  They could walk off scott free and still be a bad team unable to recruit very well.


Burn down the stadium. Maybe close the school.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2017, 08:11:02 AM »
Quote from: fezzador on December 01, 2017, 11:05:35 AM
Sounds like they got off kinda light, though the loss of 13 schollies is going to sting.
Yeah, they'll go from the worst team in the SEC West to the .....worst team in the SEC West.  
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2017, 08:11:55 AM »
I had a great time with Ole Miss fans, so I want their team to remain extant.  
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2017, 08:12:29 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 02, 2017, 08:11:02 AM
Yeah, they'll go from the worst team in the SEC West to the .....worst team in the SEC West.  
But not yet the worst team in the SEC.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2017, 08:16:01 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 01, 2017, 10:49:04 AM
I would have doubled the ban, the probation, the fine, and the ships

friggin cheaters caught red handed
Not only caught red-handed, but EVERYONE with half a brain knew IMMEDIATELY that they were cheating on that signing day.  Programs like Ole Miss do get the occasional 5* kid - a rogue wave if you will.  Mizzou got that WR who fizzled out.  Houston has that DT, etc.
But for Ole Miss to get the #1 OT, #1 WR, and the #1 DT all in the same class was clearly unnatural.  And the whole time, they denied, denied, denied.  Ugh.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2017, 08:17:44 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 02, 2017, 08:12:29 AM
But not yet the worst team in the SEC.
Why do you think Ole Miss' cross-division "rival" is Vandy?  So an intrigued nation can find out the worst team in the SEC is each year.
*in 2017, it's Tennessee, lol
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2017, 08:49:18 AM »
I didn't follow every detail of the sordiness, but I could see easily a three year bowl ban, not that it would matter really coupled with allowing juniors and seniors to leave and cutting scholarships to some number, say 20 a year instead of whatever, for four years.  I'd also take away every championship they won by cheating.  Oops.

The penalty is not about Ole Miss, it's about how others perceive the downside of nefariousness.

That message is not being sent other than to say you can cheat and expect to skate even if caught for the most part.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2017, 08:52:55 AM »
the message sent is:  it's probably worth it to cheat
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2017, 08:59:37 AM »
Yup, and be more clever about it.  I think the top level programs don't need to cheat (much) and the risk is too great.

I think clever dodges like having several starters not on scholarship is a better approach.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2017, 07:38:37 PM »
I think it's easier for the top programs to cheat.  More money to pay better middle men for the misdeeds and no one bats an eye if a 5* kid signs with you, it's expected, by some measure.  

What Ole Miss did was like making a million bucks on a scam and then showing up for work in a Ferrari the next day.  Too obvious.
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