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bayareabadger

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2017, 03:16:22 PM »

Considering the only thing he ever did at Ole Miss was cheat to add 5*s and make them pretty good, but not great, not sure who'd hire him
I don't know if other sports do this as well, or if its just college football. But man is college football good at reducing things that aren't easy down to nothing and then asking, so what have you really done?
(Lord, I'm making a half-hearted defense of Hugh Freeze. The guy can probably coach a lick. Just adding four 5-stars don't beat bama a couple times. Not sure how many first-year five-stars got his lone Ark State team to 10-2 from 4-8. Dude was a pretty good offensive coach. I'm sure his skills working with some position could, in theory, be an asset to some program.
That being said, he shouldn't get another job. He's a flagrant cheater and he's a majestic self-righteous A-hole, outpacing a lot of colleagues in a profession where that's almost the norm. But it ain't the ONLY thing he did)

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2017, 03:25:51 PM »
I don't know if other sports do this as well, or if its just college football. But man is college football good at reducing things that aren't easy down to nothing and then asking, so what have you really done?
(Lord, I'm making a half-hearted defense of Hugh Freeze. The guy can probably coach a lick. Just adding four 5-stars don't beat bama a couple times. Not sure how many first-year five-stars got his lone Ark State team to 10-2 from 4-8. Dude was a pretty good offensive coach. I'm sure his skills working with some position could, in theory, be an asset to some program.
That being said, he shouldn't get another job. He's a flagrant cheater and he's a majestic self-righteous A-hole, outpacing a lot of colleagues in a profession where that's almost the norm. But it ain't the ONLY thing he did)
yeah, he was also calling hookers on his company phone. Like really, how dumb can you be?

Not judging him for that at all. I could frankly care less if that's how he gets his rocks off. What I will judge him for is his absolute hypocrisy- he was always jesus this jesus that I'm such a good family man- I love my wife- I love jesus- I can't coach these extra hours I need time for my hooke...I mean children- awe shucks isn't jesus great! It's always the self-righteous preachy smug a-holes that you have to watch out for.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2017, 03:30:31 PM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2017, 03:52:23 PM »
Sounds like they got off kinda light, though the loss of 13 schollies is going to sting.
i've seen conflicting reports that say the 13 scholarships include the 11 originally self imposed, and another report that says in addition to the 11 self imposed.
include: https://247sports.com/Article/NCAA-Releases-Penalties-On-Ole-Miss-Football-Program-111490207
"Additional scholarship cuts bring the total to 13, which includes 11 already self-imposed by the program, according to sources."

in addition to: https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/12/1/16512428/ole-miss-ncaa-sanctions-penalties-investigation
"A total scholarship reduction of 13 over a period of years. That’s in addition to the 11 over four years that Ole Miss self-imposed, which already meant three or four fewer scholarship players per year"

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2017, 04:08:07 PM »
"In addition to" is huge.  Don't agree with the guys saying it's a slap on the wrist, if so.  They'd be down a quarter of their team in schollys.  G'luck with that, Ole Miss.  


The NCAA is mind-numbingly insane on it's show-cause for coaches and assistants.  Some of these assistants are getting 5-8 yrs of that, and Freeze only 1?  And some here saying he doesn't even have a real show-cause for next year?  Ridiculous.  

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2017, 04:12:45 PM »
ncaa release: https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/ole-miss-lacked-institutional-control-football-program

"Scholarship reductions through 2018-19, as detailed in the public report (self-imposed by the university)."

so it's not even 13, but only the original 11 apparently.and over 4 years, so 3 per year. not much of a penalty.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2017, 04:42:22 PM »
That is a joke.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2017, 05:13:11 PM »
yeah, he was also calling hookers on his company phone. Like really, how dumb can you be?

Not judging him for that at all. I could frankly care less if that's how he gets his rocks off. What I will judge him for is his absolute hypocrisy- he was always jesus this jesus that I'm such a good family man- I love my wife- I love jesus- I can't coach these extra hours I need time for my hooke...I mean children- awe shucks isn't jesus great! It's always the self-righteous preachy smug a-holes that you have to watch out for.
Hey Jesus hung out with hookers
"Let us endeavor so to live - that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2017, 05:22:23 PM »
**MrNubbz gets struck by lightning**

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2017, 05:22:58 PM »
LMAO
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2017, 05:29:15 PM »
Can't help it if you back sliders haven't read your Bible
"Let us endeavor so to live - that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2017, 08:20:49 PM »
and us back sliders can't help it if you get struck down by lightning
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2017, 09:01:16 PM »
I'm sure Jesus is a Skers fan being an advocate of the downtrodden and all
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Re: Ole Miss
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