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Topic: #3 Ohio State (3-0) at Michigan State (1-0, 3-1) Game Week

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Re: #3 Ohio State (3-0) at Michigan State (1-0, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2024, 06:27:05 PM »
Yeah, OSU has all sorts of weird losses.

It could be that Purdue goes 2-10 this year, looking bad in every loss, with their lone conference win being beating OSU :57:

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Re: #3 Ohio State (3-0) at Michigan State (1-0, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2024, 06:28:25 PM »
Remember Zach Smith, the degenerate loser whose behavior got Urban Meyer suspended and perhaps led to him quitting? He is now a podcast bro, who recently went after Ross Fulton, who writes football geek things for OSU media. "Space Coyote," who is a former football coach, went back after him, in an epic twitter thread.


https://twitter.com/SpaceCoyoteBDS/status/1838667113529020689

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Re: #3 Ohio State (3-0) at Michigan State (1-0, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2024, 09:10:54 PM »
The more time we spend in yhis thread discussing the 1998 game and Zach Smith, instead of focusing on this game, the better INO

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Re: #3 Ohio State (3-0) at Michigan State (1-0, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2024, 11:25:37 PM »
Yeah, OSU has all sorts of weird losses.
It could be that Purdue goes 2-10 this year, looking bad in every loss, with their lone conference win being beating OSU :57:
Let me acknowledge up front that this is definitely "helmet school problems", but Ohio State's incredible consistency at being top-5ish but without quite so many championships as other similarly situated teams means that Ohio State probably has more "heartbreaker" seasons than anybody. 

1998 is a perfect example.  That team was, for their era, one of the best cfb teams I've seen period.  So when I look back as a tOSU fan it is such a heartbreaking woulda-coulda-shoulda situation because they were oh-so-close to getting into (and possibly winning) the inaugural BCSNCG.  Looking at that one either Ohio State not losing at home to a mediocre (they finished 6-6*) MSU team or MissSt managing to hold onto a 14-10 lead midway through the fourth quarter gets tOSU into the CG. 

When I say this here is what I am referring to:
Ohio State is tied with Bama for #2 all-time with 30 top-5 finishes.  That trails only Oklahoma, the Sooners have 33.  But look at it along with AP #1 finishes:
  • 33 Oklahoma, 7 NC's leaving 26 finishes at #2-#5
  • 30 Bama, 12 NC's leaving 18 finishes at #2-#5
  • 30 Ohio State, 5 NC's leaving 25 finishes at #2-#5
  • 25 Notre Dame, 8 NC's leaving 17 finishes at #2-#5
  • 21 Texas, 3 NC's leaving 18 finishes at #2-#5
  • 19 USC, 5 NC's leaving 14 finishes at #2-#5
  • 18 Michigan, 3 NC's leaving 15 finishes at #2-#5
  • 17 FSU, 3 NC's leaving 14 finishes at #2-#5
  • 15 UGA, 3 NC's leaving 12 finishes at #2-#5
  • 14 Penn State, 2 NC's leaving 12 finishes at #2-#5

I think those #2-#5 finishes are the "heartbreakers", the ones you look back at and just think "if only" because they were "oh-so-close" and Ohio State has a LOT of those. 

*MSU in 1998 went 6-6 but this was in the midst of MSU's era of constantly beating top-10 opponents but losing to crappy teams.  That year not only did they beat tOSU, they also beat a very good ND team that finished 9-3 and played pretty well on the road against a M team that finished 10-3 but they lost to:
  • 5-6 MN
  • 8-4 CoSU
  • 8-4 Ore
  • 9-4 PU
  • 9-3 PSU
The year before that they blew out a PSU team that finished 9-3 but only went 7-5 themselves.  In 1995 they knocked off a M team that finished 9-4 but only went 6-5-1 themselves.  

The year after that they pulled off a rare feat of beating Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State in the same season but only went 10-2 because they had a two-game stretch in mid-October where they got annihilated by Purdue and Wisconsin in successive weeks.  In 2000 they beat a very good ND team but finished sub .500.  
« Last Edit: September 24, 2024, 11:34:17 PM by medinabuckeye1 »

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Re: #3 Ohio State (3-0) at Michigan State (1-0, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2024, 11:42:37 PM »
It could be that Purdue goes 2-10 this year, looking bad in every loss, with their lone conference win being beating OSU :57:
I hope I'm not jinxing it but one of Ryan Day's greatest accomplishments has been not losing to bad teams.  The year before he took over Ohio State went 13-1 with the lone loss being a blowout at the hands of your Boilermakers who finished sub .500 that year.  Since then (Day's tenure) the losses have all been to good-to-great teams:
  • A CFP loss to Clemson
  • A NC loss to Bama
  • A loss to an Oregon team that made the P12CG
  • A loss to B1G Champion* and CFP Participant* Michigan
  • A loss to B1G Champion* and CFP Participant* Michigan
  • A loss to SEC and NC UGA
  • A loss to B1G and NC* Michigan
  • A Cotton Bowl loss to a Mizzou team that finished top-10


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Re: #3 Ohio State (3-0) at Michigan State (1-0, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2024, 12:01:31 AM »
Unless Jonathan Smith pulls a Mel Tucker between now and then, I expect it to go down to the wire. 

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Re: #3 Ohio State (3-0) at Michigan State (1-0, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2024, 01:24:05 AM »
You had to throw "pulls" in there didn't you? Wonder how Tugger's lawsuit for MSU "defaming" him is shaping up? First off I didn't know he was "famed" then when you tell the USA Today you were tossing off whilst on the University's phone one would imagine word got out
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Re: #3 Ohio State (3-0) at Michigan State (1-0, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2024, 11:13:30 AM »
Young Sparty QB Chiles is about to be baptized in scarlet and grey fire.  It'll be ugly but this is how he gets better.
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