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Topic: Odds we have a football season poll

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #784 on: August 24, 2020, 11:39:41 AM »
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skull-sessions/2020/08/116015/ohio-state-football-every-big-ten-athletic-director-wanted-a-fall-season-michigans-aidan-hutchinson-wants-one-more-shot
I question the logic on that report.  While I don't question some of the basic facts, the idea that the AD's and presidents would use Warren as some sort of go between is really odd. 
You know what is missing from any report I've seen on this so far? 

The idea that Warren didn't actually represent the wishes of the athletic directors when he met with the university Presidents.

Yeah, obviously if he knew every AD wanted to play and he walked into his meeting with the Presidents and said something like "yeah, the athletic directors are full of it and we should postpone the season no matter what they think", then fire that SOB. I haven't seen any evidence of that though. 

It wouldn't make ANY sense for him to do that either. If he was supposed to be the agent for the ADs in the discussion, then it would be a dereliction of duty not to discharge that obligation faithfully. 

Again, it sounds more likely to me that Warren went into that meeting, told the Presidents that every AD wanted to play, and the Presidents were like "well it's our reputations on the line, the ADs aren't making the decision" and postponed it. And now everyone is throwing Warren under the bus as the bad guy because he's expendable. 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #786 on: August 24, 2020, 02:40:38 PM »
Again, it sounds more likely to me that Warren went into that meeting, told the Presidents that every AD wanted to play, and the Presidents were like "well it's our reputations on the line, the ADs aren't making the decision" and postponed it. And now everyone is throwing Warren under the bus as the bad guy because he's expendable.


So if that's the case why isn't Kevin Warren defending himself? He's in position to use the media to his advantage. Instead he's hiding out in Minnesota and digging a hole with any further statements he makes.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #787 on: August 24, 2020, 02:53:47 PM »
As some parents of Husker football players still seek more answers into the Big Ten's decision to cancel the fall season, Glen Snodgrass made an appearance on Saturday on the "Cavuto Live" show on Fox News, saying they haven't yet received any response to their questions from league officials.

The father of Husker redshirt freshman linebacker Garrett Snodgrass, he has been a leader of the Nebraska Cornhusker Football Parents group that sent an initial letter expressing their displeasure in the decision last week, with families of 81 players represented. On Thursday, parents of 11 players took it another step and hired Norfolk attorney Mike Flood, sending a demand letter to the office of Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren wanting further documentation on how the vote was taken, meeting minutes, and medical data used for the decision, among other things.

"Our goal is to get something back by Monday at noon, but as of now we haven't heard anything," Snodgrass said Saturday to the show's host Neil Cavuto.
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #788 on: August 24, 2020, 03:03:37 PM »

So if that's the case why isn't Kevin Warren defending himself? He's in position to use the media to his advantage. Instead he's hiding out in Minnesota and digging a hole with any further statements he makes.
That is a very good question. 

I wonder what is going on behind the scenes. 

If they're trying to push him out of the job, then he'd have every incentive to defend himself. If they're just trying to throw him under the bus until this blows over and then he keeps his job, he has incentive to remain silent and not burn bridges. If he honestly believes that the other conferences are going to cancel before football starts or during the season, then he actually looks better to have foresight here as "the guy who canceled the season" even if that wasn't the way it went down. 

In the moment, the sh!t being thrown at him seems likely to cause many, many fans to lose confidence in him after this is all over. BUT, we don't know what's going to happen over the next two months. Maybe he's waiting it out because he believes either the NCAA or other conferences will all end up here eventually. 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #790 on: August 24, 2020, 03:37:43 PM »
Ha, a chance for dialog, with no chance to change anything.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #792 on: August 24, 2020, 04:58:20 PM »
Ha, a chance for dialog, with no chance to change anything.

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Like a town hall with a candidate

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #793 on: August 24, 2020, 05:28:23 PM »
So the Ivy League, the Big Ten, and Vanderbilt aren't in on this.  And it's a bad idea?  

Call me intellectually elitist all you want, but I'm siding with them.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #794 on: August 24, 2020, 05:52:10 PM »
So the Ivy League, the Big Ten, and Vanderbilt aren't in on this.  And it's a bad idea? 

Call me intellectually elitist all you want, but I'm siding with them.
I don’t think it’s elitist.  It’s an educated and informed opinion.  And, it may prove to be where every league ends up.  I respect it. 

I don’t necessarily agree, or at least wish the Big had delayed an attempt at fall season. 
hopefully you can respect that.  
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #796 on: August 25, 2020, 06:34:25 AM »

 “EVERYONE IS FURIOUS.” Another day, another set of furious anonymous sources embarrassed and confused by the actions (or lack thereof) of Kevin Warren.

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Parent complaints can be written off, especially after a small turnout Friday, but their concerns are shared by the majority of people inside Big Ten programs ESPN has interviewed during the past few weeks. That's a problem for Warren and the league, especially if the bad feelings continue to fester.
"Been in this league for 20-plus years," a league source told ESPN. "This has been embarrassing."
"Everyone is furious," added another source. "Not the way it has ever gone down. And the ramifications are staggering."
The public criticism is highly unusual for the 124-year-old conference, whose members pride themselves on unity and keeping disagreements in-house. Former commissioner Jim Delany, who stepped down Jan. 1 after 30 years leading the league, made pioneering and, at times, unpopular moves -- football division names "Legends" and "Leaders" flopped badly, and many people still aren't wild about expansion additions Maryland and Rutgers. Still, the Big Ten has rarely exposed such wounds publicly.
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As one Big Ten coach told ESPN, "We're just left in the dark. Why wouldn't you communicate? Why wouldn't you respond? I don't get it. Something's just off."
But don't worry, Warren is finally to actually talk to some of the student-athletes!

... about something completely irrelevant while explicitly requesting they don't talk about his fall sports decision.




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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #797 on: August 25, 2020, 08:43:32 AM »
I'd lower my expectations for a season further, too many break outs already.  It's not a shock of course, but we no doubt hoped somehow against that eventuality.

If Vandy can't practice for 3-4 days ....


 

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